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So my younger DD asks me about colleges, and which are good (academically). We now simply look up the acceptance rate and use that as a proxy for how good they are. Perhaps not the right approach, but it's been interesting.
 

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Many schools started going test optional a few years ago because they felt a 3 hour exam on a Saturday morning should not define you as a student. During and after 2020, many schools went away from using them because students couldn't take them. Now, schools are beginning to use them again because they're the great equalizer.

Because grades can vary from school district to school district, let alone state to state, you can't rely on them alone. For better or worse, the SAT/ACT is the same exam everywhere you take them. So, while they may not require them, they use them to determine scholarships.

Personally, I hate them. My niece got rejected from top schools a few years back because she isn't a great standardized test taker. She finished 4th out of 600 students in her HS class, and she had a 104 weighted average. But she struggled with a 1290 on her SAT.
 
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Many schools started going test optional a few years ago because they felt a 3 hour exam on a Saturday morning should not define you as a student. During and after 2020, many schools went away from using them because students couldn't take them. Now, schools are beginning to use them again because they're the great equalizer.

Because grades can vary from school district to school district, let alone state to state, you can't rely on them alone. For better or worse, the SAT/ACT is the same exam everywhere you take them. So, while they may not require them, they use them to determine scholarships.

Personally, I hate them. My niece got rejected from top schools a few years back because she isn't a great standardized test taker. She finished 4th out of 600 students in her HS class, and she had a 104 weighted average. But she struggled with a 1290 on her SAT.
Standardized tests like that are an IQ test of sorts. I would guess many/most kids with perfect scores (or close to it) don’t even study for the test.
 
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Standardized tests like that are an IQ test of sorts. I would guess most kids with perfect scores (or close to it) don’t even study.
I had a client about 20 years ago whose son had a 1520 on his SAT, but he had an 88 average. He thought because he was so smart, he didn't need to do the work. Well, guess who got rejected from all the top schools to which he applied?
 
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I had a client about 20 years ago whose son had a 1520 on his SAT, but he had an 88 average. He thought because he was so smart, he didn't need to do the work. Well, guess who got rejected from all the top schools to which he applied?
Yeah. Having a high IQ just means you have the capability to learn well. My roommate freshmen year had a perfect SAT score but pulled a 2.0 freshmen year because all he did was drink 😂. He cleaned up his act after that..
 
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DD1's admissions department tells all prospective students: we don't require it, but if you take it we WILL look at it...... basically said if your transcript is good enough to get you in, the SAT/ACT is only going to hurt you.......only take it if you test well and need it to boost your transcript

This is why I have not sent my dds scores anywhere until we’ve seen them first!


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Standardized tests like that are an IQ test of sorts. I would guess many/most kids with perfect scores (or close to it) don’t even study for the test.
I would guess that kids with crappy scores also don't do much to prepare for the test.

It's a measurement of what you know...up to about the 11th grade level. If that freezes you up, you'd best avoid any profession that has a qualification exam (doctor, lawyer, pilot, accountant, engineer, etc)
 
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I would guess that kids with crappy scores also don't do much to prepare for the test.
Right.. what’s your point? You take 1000 kids who didn’t prepare for the exam, who have similar grades in the subjects the SAT tests, and the scores will have some positive correlation with IQ.

You have kids who spend thousands on tutors but cannot break 1300. You think that is only because they are not good at composite functions? No, they are not able to process information on the exam as quickly as the kids who score really high. That doesn’t mean they won’t go on and do great things in particular since most intellectual tasks are not so time limited. I did well in them but was certainly not exceptional and I did ok academically.
 
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I would guess that kids with crappy scores also don't do much to prepare for the test.

It's a measurement of what you know...up to about the 11th grade level. If that freezes you up, you'd best avoid any profession that has a qualification exam (doctor, lawyer, pilot, accountant, engineer, etc)

Well so far my kid sucks at it so thanks for the insult. She’s a straight A student in honors and AP classes and hasn’t ever struggled with standardized testing before taking the act and sat. I was the kid that didn’t prepare and scored great. I haven’t paid for the 1000 dollar prep course but she has been taking practice tests and trying. I certainly have fears as to how her high school grades are a farce and she’s going to fail to keep the academic money she gets but I guess I’m going to have to trust her and the academic support that surrounds the program.


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