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Butter, this is hip extension. First one his hips are flexed. Torso closer to femurs. 2nd one he is fully extended. Torso pelvis femurs in line. So going from pic 1 to pic 2 is extension. The opposite movement would be flexion.

Look at How far his torso moves rearward/up in a very short amount of time while also moving a very large mass.

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What do you call it when the pelvis rotates away from the leg?
@Bonesaw @Mudders Brudder
 
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Honestly thanks for the reply.
Awesome, glad cooler heads have prevailed, and hopefully we can keep it that way. ✌

But I am asking if the pelvis rotates away from the rear leg is that hip extension?
As I'm reading this, I'm taking it that you're asking that if the rear half of the pelvis (rear or back towards the catcher part of the iliac crest) in a hitter rotates away (or "juts forward" if that would describe it also...as is the picture in my head of it), is that "hip extension"....for which I'd say "yes it is". If....

That "rotation" or "jut" was the rear leg rotating or jutting the rear pelvis forward, but not if the hitter is using the front leg/hip to simply pull the rest of the pelvis forward on top of itself...which in that case would be "IR" of the lead leg/hip.

Not trying to be obtuse, but that's the difficult thing about explaining the body's movements, because minute changes in from where or how a movement is created, can change the name of the movement attempted in being described.

Did that answer the question? If not, please help me understand what I need to explain in more detail, or differently.

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What do you call it when the pelvis rotates away from the leg?
@Bonesaw @Mudders Brudder
If we're talking about the rear leg side of the pelvis, then I'd personally call that "rear hip extension". I'll let "Bones" call it what he will.
 
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IMO y'all focusing on the wrong thing in regard to the thread title, :). Get to a FYB position, establish posture, maintain posture... = big league bat path. Just sayin... btw I love you all LOLOL, even the passive aggressive shepherd who keeps trying to herd us all together into our own little flocks of sheep.
 
Feb 25, 2020
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Awesome, glad cooler heads have prevailed, and hopefully we can keep it that way. ✌

As I'm reading this, I'm taking it that you're asking that if the rear half of the pelvis (rear or back towards the catcher part of the iliac crest) in a hitter rotates away (or "juts forward" if that would describe it also...as is the picture in my head of it), is that "hip extension"....for which I'd say "yes it is". If....

That "rotation" or "jut" was the rear leg rotating or jutting the rear pelvis forward, but not if the hitter is using the front leg/hip to simply pull the rest of the pelvis forward on top of itself...which in that case would be "IR" of the lead leg/hip.

Not trying to be obtuse, but that's the difficult thing about explaining the body's movements, because minute changes in from where or how a movement is created, can change the name of the movement attempted in being described.

Did that answer the question? If not, please help understand what I need to explain in more detail, or differently.

EDIT:

If we're talking about the rear leg side of the pelvis, then I'd personally call that "rear hip extension". I'll let "Bones" call it what he will.

Yes think what butter is taking note of isthe rear hip extending there.
 
Oct 13, 2014
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South Cali
And right back to diverting, deflecting we go.

Y'all need to huddle up the crew, and figure out a common talking point, instead of being all over the place with "first" starting the swing with the "obliques", the "middle", the "belly button", or any other the mystical and magical body parts you've all come us with over the years.

we have told you countless times. You just can’t come to grips that you’ve been wrong forever. Hip rotation is not it. That not how to move the bat across the body.

get in a wide launch position. Create a bit of posture. Put your hands on your hips. Keep your head still and your feet flat on the ground and turn. The middle moves you. Not the hips or the legs or the feet.
 
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we have told you countless times. You just can’t come to grips that you’ve been wrong forever. Hip rotation is not it. That not how to move the bat across the body.

get in a wide launch position. Create a bit of posture. Put your hands on your hips. Keep your head still and your feet flat on the ground and turn. The middle moves you. Not the hips or the legs or the feet.
I’ve come around on the middle doing the rotation. If you swing trying to keep you back foot down you realize the torso is in control.
 
May 3, 2014
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Awesome, glad cooler heads have prevailed, and hopefully we can keep it that way. ✌

As I'm reading this, I'm taking it that you're asking that if the rear half of the pelvis (rear or back towards the catcher part of the iliac crest) in a hitter rotates away (or "juts forward" if that would describe it also...as is the picture in my head of it), is that "hip extension"....for which I'd say "yes it is". If....

That "rotation" or "jut" was the rear leg rotating or jutting the rear pelvis forward, but not if the hitter is using the front leg/hip to simply pull the rest of the pelvis forward on top of itself...which in that case would be "IR" of the lead leg/hip.

Not trying to be obtuse, but that's the difficult thing about explaining the body's movements, because minute changes in from where or how a movement is created, can change the name of the movement attempted in being described.

Did that answer the question? If not, please help me understand what I need to explain in more detail, or differently.

EDIT:

If we're talking about the rear leg side of the pelvis, then I'd personally call that "rear hip extension". I'll let "Bones" call it what he will.
Cool. Rear hip extension.

What happens when the rear hip extension reaches it range of motion in terms of not being able to extend any further?
 
Apr 11, 2015
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we have told you countless times. You just can’t come to grips that you’ve been wrong forever. Hip rotation is not it. That not how to move the bat across the body.

get in a wide launch position. Create a bit of posture. Put your hands on your hips. Keep your head still and your feet flat on the ground and turn. The middle moves you. Not the hips or the legs or the feet.
Continually repeating it doesn't make it anymore less incorrect than it was all of the other however many numerous times you've tried to push it off as some pseudoscience fact or truth.

What are you, your crew's Minister of Propaganda?
"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it"
Fortunately that didn't work back then, so I trust that most will see right through you, and know that it's not gonna work here either.

Good luck with that though, but at least one of y'all is starting to ask good questions, and is indulging in intelligent conversation again which is much more of a pleasure to have than with someone so caught up in agendas the he insists on repeating misnomers about things that have never been said or brought up.
 

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