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[Bobby Shirer]

Jose Altuve Home Run Swing - 2019 HR #11 on Make a GIF

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Notice the bat rotate around his back forearm?
TTB is the reason why his miniscule power transfers to the bat. It's all about efficiency. If he was hands to the ball he wouldn't hit it out of the infield. All the power in the world without the right transmission just leaves you out of gear.

 

[rdbass]

 

[Bobby Shirer]

I'm posting this video to show how little the body movement needs to be when turn the barrel is applied. This is not about the hip sockets or the stride but how the bat turns around the forearm.
When TTB is applied, every movement transfers to the bat.
Learn TTB first and then all the power creating moves work exponentially.
TTB EFFICIENCY!

 

[james27503]

How about we just simplify all this and say swing down from behind. Kinda combines the two thought processes.

 

[Bobby Shirer]

How about we just simplify all this and say swing down from behind. Kinda combines the two thought processes.

Because it's not swing down from behind.
It's turn the barrel around the rear forearm.....
That's the move that allows the little guys to hit for power.

 

[james27503]

Because it's not swing down from behind.
It's turn the barrel around the rear forearm.....
That's the move that allows the little guys to hit for power.

Very true, just zeroing in on the initial feeling. Trying to differentiate feel vs real. The initial "feel" of swing down has produced a lot of greats, even though we both know that isn't what is going on. Trying to combine what we know to be true to teaching kids. Just wondering if Turn the barrel around your forearm will work for teaching a kid as swing down from behind and get to palm up as fast as you can. Just some thoughts.

 

[Work=wins]

Jose Altuve Home Run Swing - 2019 HR #11 on Make a GIF

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Notice the bat rotate around his back forearm?
TTB is the reason why his miniscule power transfers to the bat. It's all about efficiency. If he was hands to the ball he wouldn't hit it out of the infield. All the power in the world without the right transmission just leaves you out of gear.

I think you mean watch the elbow slot and the top wrist become radial deviated. Turning of the barrel is the result of the back elbow slotting creating a delay in the release of the barrel. Adjustable.

Don’t you throw that way too? Why do we slot the elbow when we throw? Maybe to support the hands’ direction and intent? Maybe that’s why the elbow will slot deeper on an outside pitch because of the longer arc to the ball as opposed to the inside where the arc is much smaller and doesn’t need as much support to stay on plane? I don’t know maybe I’m crazy.

Common sense needs a push here.

 

[Work=wins]

Didn’t Barry talk about ‘throwing the bat head?

Didn’t Ted talk about his wrists extensively?

 

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Very true, just zeroing in on the initial feeling. Trying to differentiate feel vs real. The initial "feel" of swing down has produced a lot of greats, even though we both know that isn't what is going on.

Well the barrel does accelerate down initially so when somebody describes this feeling that is probably what they are referring to. Somebody who used to post here, but doesn't anymore, talked about working backwards from the desired result, e.g. a high level barrel path. In a lot of ways that makes sense.

 

[james27503]

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Well the barrel does accelerate down initially so when somebody describes this feeling that is probably what they are referring to. Somebody who used to post here, but doesn't anymore, talked about working backwards from the desired result, e.g. a high level barrel path. In a lot of ways that makes sense.

All these technicalities are wonderful to discuss with this peer group, but at the end of the day I have to get 11 year old girls to stop dropping their hands and swinging flat. Crazy thing is, a vast majority of hall of fame hitters are not the Ted Williams, Josh Donaldson types. I would imagine if not for baseball Ted and Josh would be in the STEM fields. Their brains require a valid explanation of reality to work correctly. I am the same way. The problem is..... a big group of men and most all women aren't that way. No sexism, just facts, there are way more men in the stem fields and more women human services. That being said imparting feel may be a better tool than reason. Both are important, however at this stage in my development as a coach I am thinking 75/25 feel to real. So I am looking for the feel suggestions that will produce good results. I can technically break the swing down but have struggled sometimes to relate my knowledge to them in a way that produces the desired results.

Just this past weekend at a TB tournament I had a player who was dropping hands and swinging up. Golf swing like. Had to bunt her most the time but really wanted her to hit. I had to go to out on a leap of faith and tell her to swing down on the ball. She hit a line drive after that. That type of stuff makes no sense to me. But if it works.... it works. So I have to be smart enough to bypass my own brain which wants to say, you are dropping your hands, you are not getting your back elbow under and your front elbow up, you are not getting a downward shoulder angle into fyb, etc. Coaching is not an easy job. Can I get an Amen?