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There are better ways to describe what is happening than saying just weighted or unweighted because it isn't a binary scenario and instead involves foot force/pressure and the relationship between max front foot pressure (which will occur sometime after launch and before/at contact) and the amount before launch. A "large" ratio between the two describes what people call "1 -legged" while a "small" ratio describes what people call "two-legged"
Maybe so but I think you get my point lol.
 
Jun 8, 2016
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Maybe so but I think you get my point lol.
I do but others see unweighted and 1-legged and think (or at leas seem to) they are actually swinging with the front foot totally off the ground. I agree it is ridiculous since every time TM shows a hitter who he says is 1-legged everybody can see that the front foot is actually on the ground. Anyway, I am in FP's camp on this regarding the actual use of the term. You do the upstream stuff correct, which can be better described (in my opinion) and you don't have to worry about it..
 

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@W=w It is still possible to stay back and wait with a TTB swing:



Is it not called 1 legged because the balance of weight is still on the back leg at launch? Could be 60/40 and still be called 1-legged?

This forward yet still weighted back hover allows adjustment for offspeed by keeping the weight ratio to the back even after the forward move. Trying to teach this to a player who commits too early. She can smack a 60MPH pitch but waves weakly at change ups as she stumbles forward....
 
Jul 16, 2013
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Maybe so but I think you get my point lol.

I'm more of a force guy myself, similar to "the Professor" ;) But I know exactly what you mean and agree. The truth is the front foot can be fully touching, at toe touch, or slightly before toe touch at launch. As long as the hitter still has something left in the tank (i.e. is still "back" or "stretched"). Once launch occurs, the force on the front leg will increase exponentially.
 
Jul 16, 2013
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@W=w It is still possible to stay back and wait with a TTB swing:



Is it not called 1 legged because the balance of weight is still on the back leg at launch? Could be 60/40 and still be called 1-legged?

This forward yet still weighted back hover allows adjustment for offspeed by keeping the weight ratio to the back even after the forward move. Trying to teach this to a player who commits too early. She can smack a 60MPH pitch but waves weakly at change ups as she stumbles forward....


Exactly... It could be 60/40. It could be 51/49. It could be 53.82/46.18. Really doesn't matter. The truth is this... People who don't believe in 1-leg hitting try to twist it into something it isn't.

Added: I use a similar drill with the college players I work with. When we are in the cage I utilize two home plates. 5 pitches at the front plate and then 5 pitches from the back plate. Keep alternating while using the drill. Helps their overall timing quite a bit, at least with the players I have used it with.
 
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TDS

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The weight or pressure is falling into both legs and not shifting across the pelvis to the front leg for leverage. Once leveraged the obliques contract as a source of power. Of course there are multiple core muscles involved.. This movement is what allows the the hands/arms to be pulled.. If your not leveraged it's difficult to not push the bat using the hands/arms...

Trout tries to get into his legs for the fastball and continues to sit for the off-speed.. He doesn't ride the rear leg until the swing dictates his shift like Rich demonstrates here.

 
Jul 16, 2013
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The weight or pressure is falling into both legs and not shifting across the pelvis to the front leg for leverage. Once leveraged the obliques contract as a source of power. Of course there are multiple core muscles involved.. This movement is what allows the the hands/arms to be pulled.. If your not leveraged it's difficult to not push the bat using the hands/arms...

Trout tries to get into his legs for the fastball and continues to sit for the off-speed..


Thank you for your response TDS. When you speak of core, are you utilizing the Jim Dixon definition which includes the upper legs and hips?
 
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