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I've been down this road before.... ;) To me, pitch recognition is essential for timing. Not only are you recognizing location, but you are also recognizing speed. Otherwise, what exactly is being timed?
Just trying to get his ideas cemented in stone/bytes for posterity.
 
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So if I have this straight your timing and pre-launch body positioning ignores pitch recognition which is only used to adjust post launch. Even in that scenario wouldn't having more time to read the pitch give you better information in order to adjust post launch?

When you stride out. It’s usually while the pitcher still has the ball or is just releasing it. The hitter should try to stay closed for alap. Until they got a beat on the pitch. Does this answer your question?

Launch is not until the hands come forward. It’s not stride or elbow slot. Guys can still check their swings at elbow slot or foot down.
 
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When you stride out. It’s usually while the pitcher still has the ball or is just releasing it. The hitter should try to stay closed for alap. Until they got a beat on the pitch. Does this answer your question?

Launch is not until the hands come forward. It’s not stride or elbow slot. Guys can still check their swings at elbow slot or foot down.
Ok so stride out for a fastball...I have no issue with that. In fact pretty much every hitter does that. The actual timing of it I would get down in the on deck circle.

Are you using pitch recognition to determine when to launch (regardless of definition) and the associated body positioning at launch? I would assume a yes to "when" and a no to "body positioning"? Is that correct?
 
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When you stride out. It’s usually while the pitcher still has the ball or is just releasing it. The hitter should try to stay closed for alap. Until they got a beat on the pitch. Does this answer your question?

Launch is not until the hands come forward. It’s not stride or elbow slot. Guys can still check their swings at elbow slot or foot down.

I do not want to speak for pattar, but I will comment... Other than the fact that you and I look at a different point of time as "launch", I agree with everything else you are saying here. None of it contradicts TTB or one-legged hitting. In fact, I could take your phrase "the hitter should try to stay closed for asap" and convert it to "resist rotation" as SB would say, and they essentially mean the same thing. Maybe you're coming around W=W. ;) In respect to launch, I see no reason why a swing cannot be launched and still aborted (i.e. check swing).
 
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Ok so stride out for a fastball...I have no issue with that. In fact pretty much every hitter does that. The actual timing of it I would get down in the on deck circle.

Are you using pitch recognition to determine when to launch (regardless of definition) and the associated body positioning at launch? I would assume a yes to "when" and a no to "body positioning"? Is that correct?

Pitch location would be what determines adjustments. Done with the hands.. height, speed etc. the body adheres to this. If the pitch is high hands go up. Pitch is slow hands stay back. Pitch is in hands create a tighter line inside the pitch.



It’s not set your body then swing. Too slow. See the hands adjust first then the body?
 
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Pitch location would be what determines adjustments. Done with the hands.. height, speed etc. the body adheres to this. If the pitch is high hands go up. Pitch is slow hands stay back. Pitch is in hands create a tighter line inside the pitch.



It’s not set your body then swing. Too slow.

Ok regardless of whether I agree that the adjustments you speak of are correct, you are using pitch recognition to make them correct? If the answer is yes, would you agree that the longer you can read the pitch before committing to any adjustments, the better the information your brain can give to the body parts to make the adjustments ? Yes or no only please ;)
 
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As a general rule foot starts down at release. Hands go back to launch position as foot starts down. From release to about half way home is your read time. Launch is forearms/wrists turning the handle. If your foot is starting down and you recognize change you slow down your actions. Launch is still forearms/wrists turning the handle. You are not chopping down a tree lol.
 
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As a general rule foot starts down at release. Hands go back to launch position as foot starts down. From release to about half way home is your read time. Launch is forearms/wrists turning the handle. If your foot is starting down and you recognize change you slow down your actions. Launch is still forearms/wrists turning the handle. You are not chopping down a tree lol.
Bare with me here..I am trying to make a point ;)
 
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Tilting is a reaction to an adjustment. The hands create the path to the ball. The body follows these instructions. Just because the hands set the course doesn’t mean the body doesn’t go first or with the hands. Think about when you throw? Ball go first? Body leverages then throw? But the throw hand is driving this motion right? A favorite analogy of mine...

When you reach for a book on the shelf does your body aid you or stay in the way? Support?

The hands direct the body. The eyes direct the hands. In all facets of life. We are talking about efficiently of course.

Not on a drunk Saturday night. When other forces direct our inefficiencies. ;)


Hoefully clears things up.
 
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