1st year 14u - Swing mechanics what to work on

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Jun 17, 2009
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Disagree, your either creating force with the upperbody or the upperbody is following the large muscles. There is to much tension when trying to use the upperbody.

There truly are two independent engines. The second-engine responds/reacts to the first-engine. How you go about getting the second-engine to respond/react is more important, IMO, than is going nuts with either engine.
 
Dec 4, 2013
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Thank you both for posting this vid and commenting. I think im getting there, thanks for the patience. Spartans, for this drill, how do you minus the thrust? I was assuming the thrust was the torso engine. Or is that what he is calling the pivot? I was assuming the pivot was the hand snapping backwards.

In watching this a few more times, it's not just a 'slide the bat off the shoulders while turning into the ball path' drill. I see now that he still is forcefully snapping (pivoting) hands as he tilts - creating the turn. I thought this was more of a stationary pivot point with hands at the shoulders.

I think i see the light.

Is there a specific feel she should get when doing this vs her current swing? I am confused on my DD however, i thought she still did have a turn, are you saying it isn't there at all? or it isn't tight enough, meaning hands not close enough to body? Just want to make sure what i am looking for.

Thanks again for the help. Hoping you dont bow out of the convo.

There are 2 pivot points. You are correct, 1 is the hands snapping backwards (hand pivot point). The other is the rear hip pivot point. The thrust is not necessary. The rear hip pivoting about the ball the ball of the femur is the 2nd pivot point.

I think you are understanding the HPP that I am referring to a little better. It's a violent turn and it is adjustable. You can swivel to different locations.

I would agree that your DD's turn (HPP) isn't tight enough. By not tight enough I mean the hands are moving in space and turning instead of just turning.

I also agree with some of the things you are saying in a different thread. A lot of the things you are seeing in great hitters are stylistic and not absolutes.

Bonds' initial barrel movements are part of his loading process. He's the GOAT. But those initial movements are pretty hard to duplicate and may not be best for everyone.
 
Dec 4, 2013
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I believe it is similar to Blue's flail ... but I am not 100% confident that I fully understand Blue's usage. IMO Blue tends to speak in a manner that makes one have to search. He has some great content ... but he doesn't always spoon feed folks :).

Blue, making people search? I have no idea what you are talking about :confused:
 

fanboi22

on the journey
Nov 9, 2015
1,138
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SE Wisconsin
There are 2 pivot points. You are correct, 1 is the hands snapping backwards (hand pivot point). The other is the rear hip pivot point. The thrust is not necessary. The rear hip pivoting about the ball the ball of the femur is the 2nd pivot point.

I think you are understanding the HPP that I am referring to a little better. It's a violent turn and it is adjustable. You can swivel to different locations.

I would agree that your DD's turn (HPP) isn't tight enough. By not tight enough I mean the hands are moving in space and turning instead of just turning.

I also agree with some of the things you are saying in a different thread. A lot of the things you are seeing in great hitters are stylistic and not absolutes.

Bonds' initial barrel movements are part of his loading process. He's the GOAT. But those initial movements are pretty hard to duplicate and may not be best for everyone.

Thanks we will keep working and see what is it isn’t successful for my add and make changes as needed.
 

fanboi22

on the journey
Nov 9, 2015
1,138
83
SE Wisconsin
Well, we only just got started again on hitting. Probably a little too late, but better late than never. Want to make sure winter practices focus on the correct things, so here is an updated swing. Let'r rip.....thanks in advance for suggestions/critique/advice.

 
Oct 26, 2019
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2 little things I noticed right away.
1. Her grip looks extremely choked. Somewhere in between door knockers lined up and box grip - she is past that by quite a bit.
2. She turns in too much south the upper body - the pitcher would be able to read her number. This could be due to the tee and she may not do that with live swings.

She looks like a strong and athletic kid!
 

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