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Feb 16, 2015
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This just posted by NCAA Softball on twitter

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Jun 27, 2011
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No, I'm not trying to be difficult. I meant Louisville and Georgia. Kentucky is better, in general, than Pitt (or Louisville) but not so much that they didn't lose to them twice on days they weren't at their best. Florida is better, in general, than Kentucky, but not so much they didn't lose to them (or Mississippi). The difference between teams is much smaller than most people believe so that if the better team doesn't play its best, we have an upset. Thus, the difference, if any, between Georgia and Louisville is who plays better that day.

The point is that the rankings/seedings are skewed due to the belief that a conference is tougher so losses are overlooked while wins in supposedly lesser conferences are not given much credence in rankings/seedings. Just look at the conference bowl results from last football season if you need data to support that.

Odd that you would use Massey Ratings as argument since they have Minn and ULL 12 & 13 and neither got a seed. Can't have it both ways. Either the RPI indexes mean something and should be used or not.

Massey now has Minnesota #2. I have no problem with how he ranks Minnesota, ULL or James Madison. Minnesota should've gotten a top 8 seed, IMO, and those other two had good cases to be top 16. So I'm not trying to have it both ways. I support Massey's numbers crunching.

Do you feel that the ACC should've gotten another team in just for sake of diversity? ie, why take a last-place team? I can see that argument. Hard to complain you got snubbed when you finish 13th of 13.

But as far as there just being the ''perception'' that certain teams/conferences are better, a gap of 20+ slots in the Massey Ratings (from UGA to Louisville) is pretty significant. Yes, Louisville could beat UGA on any given day or weekend, but IMO the evidence of scores is strongly in UGA's favor. They have essentially the same W-L record. Didn't UGA play a tougher schedule? Heck, even FSU had a losing record vs. SEC teams if not mistaken.

UGA never lost to a team that didn't make the NCAA field, and they have 6-8 wins over teams that made it. They beat Kentucky 2 out of 3. Louisville got run-ruled by UK. Louisville has about 6 losses to teams that didn't make the NCAA field.
 
Jun 27, 2011
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North Carolina
What the NCAA just posted is a clear failure to understand how to gauge strength of schedule. Was Minnesota's RPI SOS rank #114? RPI is a poor measure of SOS. Massey rates Minnesota's schedule #33. Yes, Minnesota played a weak schedule relative to SEC and Pac 12 teams, but they dominated the schedule they had like you'd expect a top-10 team to dominate it. Honestly, those on the seeding committee are not educated in how to rank teams. Ignorant, as it were.

And then, how stupid is it to say in effect, ''We don't use the top-25 polls, except to see how many top-25 teams you've beaten.''
 
Jul 5, 2016
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I accept that hosting a tournament (except, it would appear, the SEC tournament) brings advantages to the home team, but if JMU and Minnesota were truly wronged, they can prove it on the field, home or not. We were just treated to a wonderful exhibition by an Ole Miss team that didn't seem to care about the rankings and home team advantage. I am looking to JMU and Minnesota to follow the example of Ole Miss.
 
The strength of schedule becomes a financial factor for northern schools. How much would MN had to have spent to make the committee happy? They can't hop on a bus and be at a dozen top 25 schools in 3 or 4 hours. And they can't get anyone to come to MN in February now can they? So they can spend a ton of money to go on the road to play a couple series with SEC/PAC-12 schools who have been practicing outside all season in February to make someone on the committee happy?

Let's say they went to FSU and got swept and dropped three non-conference wins off. They'd be 51-6. Would that be enough for a top 16, now that they have some SOS? What if they went to FSU and UCLA and went 1-2 at both places? Now they are 50-7, does that work?

Does that really change who Minnesota is? These kids are in college, not pros. They need to squeeze in some school now and again too.

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Feb 17, 2014
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The bigger travesty will be when Megan Good doesn't win player of the year. While she didn't have the year some others did on the mound, she was still dominant on the mound while also being one of the best hitters in the country.
 
Dec 3, 2012
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West Coast
NCAA is probably hoping that by having Minnesota in Florida's Super Regional that there is a good chance that Florida gets knocked off and the NCAA doesn't have to hear about Barnhills leaping in the WCWS. How's that for a conspiracy theory?
 
Dec 3, 2012
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West Coast
The bigger travesty will be when Megan Good doesn't win player of the year. While she didn't have the year some others did on the mound, she was still dominant on the mound while also being one of the best hitters in the country.

Megan Good lead the country in wins going 36-1 along with being second in ERA at .48.
 

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