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lcumbie

Finding My Softball Yoda
Apr 13, 2014
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North Carolina
No, but RPI combined with coach's poll combined with sportswriters usually has some meaning! They are in the top 16 (Minn in top 8 of coaches and sportswriters) of all three! Not good for growing the sport.

The mid-major D1's are the real victims when a team that can't even make it's own conference tournament gets a comfortable regional berth. (Georgia)
 
Sep 29, 2014
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No, but RPI combined with coach's poll combined with sportswriters usually has some meaning! They are in the top 16 (Minn in top 8 of coaches and sportswriters) of all three! Not good for growing the sport.

The mid-major D1's are the real victims when a team that can't even make it's own conference tournament gets a comfortable regional berth. (Georgia)

But do you really doubt that Georgia is as good or better than the 4th or 5th team in the ACC or Big Ten or Big East or better than the 2nd or 3rd team in the Sunbelt or American or A10 or Big Sky?
 

lcumbie

Finding My Softball Yoda
Apr 13, 2014
9
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North Carolina
But do you really doubt that Georgia is as good or better than the 4th or 5th team in the ACC or Big Ten or Big East or better than the 2nd or 3rd team in the Sunbelt or American or A10 or Big Sky?

No, not really disputing they are comparable but as already noted, Ky lost twice to Pitt (ACC 5th best) so doubt they are better than them or Louisville ACC 4th best. Why give SEC 13 instead of giving ACC 4? or better, a 3rd (South Ala) to Sunbelt or a 2nd to Kennesaw in ASUN or a 2nd to USF in AAC?

Back to money.
 
Nov 25, 2015
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The Frozen Tundra
Being from Minny, will have to admit that there SOS was not the greatest. But at the same time If you watched them enough you saw that they completely dominated the teams they played.

Not just barely beating teams. Went to 6 games this year and all run ruled. and only trailed a couple of times all year.
 
Jun 27, 2011
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North Carolina
Ky lost twice to Pitt (ACC 5th best) so doubt they are better than them or Louisville ACC 4th best. Why give SEC 13 instead of giving ACC 4? or better, a 3rd (South Ala) to Sunbelt or a 2nd to Kennesaw in ASUN or a 2nd to USF in AAC?

Back to money.

Money matters, but it might also be because the SEC is just that good this year. Usually, the SEC has a couple of teams in struggle mode, but everybody was solid this year.

You speculate that Louisville is better than Kentucky, but Kentucky beat Louisville 10-1. :)... So while Kentucky did lose twice to Pitt in February, Kentucky also beat Florida, Texas A&M (twice) and UCLA. Louisville didn't beat anybody worth noting. All Louisville ever did was play FSU close once or twice.

Fwiw, the Massey Ratings (which are objective, if nothing else) ranks Louisville #50 nationally. They rank SEC's last-place Georgia #29. If Louisville and Georgia played, I'd probably pick UGA.
 
Oct 4, 2016
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Minnesota got the total shaft. Once again the selections committee should actually be called the SEClection committee because they're on their knees when it comes to them. totally ridiculous..
 

lcumbie

Finding My Softball Yoda
Apr 13, 2014
9
1
North Carolina
Money matters, but it might also be because the SEC is just that good this year. Usually, the SEC has a couple of teams in struggle mode, but everybody was solid this year.

You speculate that Louisville is better than Kentucky, but Kentucky beat Louisville 10-1. :)... So while Kentucky did lose twice to Pitt in February, Kentucky also beat Florida, Texas A&M (twice) and UCLA. Louisville didn't beat anybody worth noting. All Louisville ever did was play FSU close once or twice.

Fwiw, the Massey Ratings (which are objective, if nothing else) ranks Louisville #50 nationally. They rank SEC's last-place Georgia #29. If Louisville and Georgia played, I'd probably pick UGA.

No, I'm not trying to be difficult. I meant Louisville and Georgia. Kentucky is better, in general, than Pitt (or Louisville) but not so much that they didn't lose to them twice on days they weren't at their best. Florida is better, in general, than Kentucky, but not so much they didn't lose to them (or Mississippi). The difference between teams is much smaller than most people believe so that if the better team doesn't play its best, we have an upset. Thus, the difference, if any, between Georgia and Louisville is who plays better that day.

The point is that the rankings/seedings are skewed due to the belief that a conference is tougher so losses are overlooked while wins in supposedly lesser conferences are not given much credence in rankings/seedings. Just look at the conference bowl results from last football season if you need data to support that.

Odd that you would use Massey Ratings as argument since they have Minn and ULL 12 & 13 and neither got a seed. Can't have it both ways. Either the RPI indexes mean something and should be used or not.
 

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