Robert Morris - quitters

I would argue both coaches would make the same decision to play again in the same scenario (vs not playing both games).

Who cares about the stats and the subs not playing the second game.

GunnerShotgun said:

I would argue both coaches would make the same decision to play again in the same scenario (vs not playing both games).

Who cares about the stats and the subs not playing the second game.

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Yeah, in fact, the only harm done was the stats.

As far as the subs go, the game was shortened by only 1 inning (assuming the run rule would have been invoked), so that's no big deal.

And I wouldn't be surprised if the coach was unaware that the stats would be erased. He might've thought it would be scored like a rain-shortened game, where the stats do count. In any event, I doubt that stats were on his mind. His pitcher was getting embarrassed for no fault of her own, and if he brings in the LF to pitch, then that's embarrassing to the LF. Turns out that what he ultimately did proved embarrassing as well, but he no way out that wasn't going to be embarrassing to somebody.

The other issue is why doesn't he have more than 3 pitchers on the roster, but he's not the only one. Georgia, the team that I follow most closely, had only 3 last year. I wonder if it's hard to get more than 3 serious pitchers on a D-1 team. Someone with D-1 pitching talent is probably going to have better opportunities than being somebody's #4 pitcher.

GunnerShotgun said:

I would argue both coaches would make the same decision to play again in the same scenario (vs not playing both games).

Who cares about the stats and the subs not playing the second game.

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but to really get to the bottom line ask your self this question "if his team was up 16-3, would he have robbed his kids of the win and all there stats because the kid was too tired or would she magically at that point have one more inning left in her?" and I'm still wondering what his plan was if pitcher gets hurt?....what if she twisted her ankle stepping off the bus would they just turn the bus around and say sorry.

djcarter1966 said:

but to really get to the bottom line ask your self this question "if his team was up 16-3, would he have robbed his kids of the win and all there stats because the kid was too tired or would she magically at that point have one more inning left in her?" and I'm still wondering what his plan was if pitcher gets hurt?....what if she twisted her ankle stepping off the bus would they just turn the bus around and say sorry.

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Youngstown State still got the win. It was just a forfeit instead of a 16-3 final.

Not sure if the coach realized what would happen to the stats. If he did, that's a tough situation to be in. What should he do? He believes it would be unfair to his pitcher, who has already thrown 11 innings and is toast, to ask her to go out there. It would also be unfair to ask a position player to give it a whirl. Maybe the coach thought he was surrendering with honor.

CoogansBluff said:

Maybe the coach thought he was surrendering with honor.

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Maybe. But then have guts to step up and explain yourself. Answer questions. Don't "decline to comment."

Why unfair to ask a position player to throw one inning? Happens in blowouts all the time.

The only saving grace of this story is perhaps the coach put the health of the girls on his team ahead of the W.

29dad said:

Maybe. But then have guts to step up and explain yourself. Answer questions. Don't "decline to comment."

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Agree.

29dad said:

Why unfair to ask a position player to throw one inning?

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Because the coach is putting her in a position that he did not prepare her for. If I were the coach, I wouldn't want to put a player in a potentially embarrassing situation that wasn't her fault.

29dad said:

As far as asking a position player to throw an inning, just because it happens all the time.

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Does it? Can you find boxscores of D-1 games where a position player who has not pitched all season was put in mop-up duty?

You might be right. But I am not aware if this is common at the D-1 level.

I looked the team up. They don't look horrible.

It erases the stats. So, maybe he did it to save his team or players ERA. I hope not, but maybe.

Does it? Can you find boxscores of D-1 games where a position player who has not pitched all season was put in mop-up duty?

You might be right. But I am not aware if this is common at the D-1 level.[/QUOTE]

I don't watch enough D1 softball to know, but I've seen it on my dd's travel team a number of times and of course it happens in major league baseball quite frequently.

Just read about this on "another forum" and it's even worse than I thought. His number one pitcher was available. He just chose not to use her because this was a non-conference game. Didn't want her to pitch one inning, but two days later she threw over 20. And he had a position player who was a very good high school pitcher.

Sounds to me like the RMU coach tried to get Youngstown to agree to play a single game instead of a DH. Youngstown refused. So the RMU coach quit mid game as some sort of retaliation. Just my opinion, of course. Glad the NCAA came down on this guy and called it a serious violation of NCAA rules. It really is shameful. Can you imagine a D1 football team quitting in the third quarter because they were out of quarterbacks?

29dad said:

Just read about this on "another forum" and it's even worse than I thought. His number one pitcher was available. He just chose not to use her because this was a non-conference game. Didn't want her to pitch one inning, but two days later she threw over 20.

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If his #1 was available, then I can see no excuse for it.