14 yo commits to Loyola

this is good info, I was basing most of my opinion on my SLO alumni status (Go Mustangs!) and my personal experience growing up in the area and knowing a bunch of folks who went to both schools etc. The 4 year graduation rate is pretty useless IMO though, LMU families have far more resources than both levels of state schools so the kids can more typically just take a full load of classes for 4 years. In addition to the impacted nature of state class schedules, a lot of people have to take a lighter load so they can work etc. They also have a lot more JC transfers etc. One of the big thing I looked at and will look at when my DDs time comes is the value proposition. I attended in the 90s and I think I paid like $700 a quarter in tuition fees ( I don't even know if it was called tuition). I know this was an order of magnitude lower than a typical private school but the education was on par/better than all but the top tier private schools in ca. As a California resident there are two private school that I think are worth it when you have such good state schools, that would be Stanford and Cal Tech. Otherwise the state system, despite it's faults, remains a remarkable value. UCLA, CAL, Irivine, Davis (DDs want to be vets right now), UCSF medical, Cal Poly Engineering...I really wonder why any student would leave California to go to school quite honestly. I can't think of a field of study that does not have a world class option (or several) at a state school in California. I only hope it stays within reach for another 10 years for my kids. Last time I checked UC was like $10-12K a year, compared with $40K for LMU. That is insane to me....UCLA/CAL outclass LMU by FAR in every possible way and are 1/4 the cost. If a kid can't get in there then a CSU is a great option when you stack them up against the LMUs/Pepperdines of the world.

I'd think there's less than a 50-50 chance that she winds up at this school. Too much time between now and then, too many things that can happen, so far away, player has never seen the school, school has never seen the player. Too many variables. I'd be a little more confident if she's committed to a nearby school for which she'd been a fan for life.

That said, I'm in no way criticizing it. Great for her. Hopefully it will inspire her to continue working hard.

Also, I thought one of the more interesting tidbits in the story was that she was related to Sammy Vick. I'm a baseball historian/nerd and knew who that was. He was the right fielder for the Yankees in 1919. Guess who beat him out for that job in 1920? Hint: He hit 54 home runs.

JJsqueeze said:

this is good info, I was basing most of my opinion on my SLO alumni status (Go Mustangs!) and my personal experience growing up in the area and knowing a bunch of folks who went to both schools etc. The 4 year graduation rate is pretty useless IMO though, LMU families have far more resources than both levels of state schools so the kids can more typically just take a full load of classes for 4 years. In addition to the impacted nature of state class schedules, a lot of people have to take a lighter load so they can work etc. They also have a lot more JC transfers etc. (JC transfers aren't included in 4-year rate) One of the big thing I looked at and will look at when my DDs time comes is the value proposition. I attended in the 90s and I think I paid like $700 a quarter in tuition fees ( I don't even know if it was called tuition). I know this was an order of magnitude lower than a typical private school but the education was on par/better than all but the top tier private schools in ca. As a California resident there are two private school that I think are worth it when you have such good state schools, that would be Stanford and Cal Tech. (also add Harvey Mudd) Otherwise the state system, despite it's faults, remains a remarkable value. UCLA, CAL, Irivine, Davis (DDs want to be vets right now), UCSF medical, Cal Poly Engineering...I really wonder why any student would leave California to go to school quite honestly. I can't think of a field of study that does not have a world class option (or several) at a state school in California. I only hope it stays within reach for another 10 years for my kids. Last time I checked UC was like $10-12K a year, compared with $40K for LMU. That is insane to me....UCLA/CAL outclass LMU by FAR in every possible way and are 1/4 the cost. If a kid can't get in there then a CSU is a great option when you stack them up against the LMUs/Pepperdines of the world.

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People also need to consider grad school - don't overpay for undergrad if you're also going to grad school.

Question: What is the difference between UC Irvine and UC Davis?
Answer: They cleared the cows off when they built UCI.

SoCal_Dad said:

People also need to consider grad school - don't overpay for undergrad if you're also going to grad school.

Question: What is the difference between UC Irvine and UC Davis?
Answer: They cleared the cows off when they built UCI.

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You got a problem with the Aggies?

Is getting verbal commits from 9th graders common? My DD is only 7th grader, she plays up and her coaches have suggested some "show case" type events so coaches start to see her. I chuckled, I mean she is 12..and even tho as her parent I think she is pretty decent, who would even look at a 12 year old??
On a side note, I love this girl's video with the dual views...but would have liked to see the catcher's angle because from behind you don't get the feel that it is 63 MPH.

SoftballMom2 said:

Is getting verbal commits from 9th graders common? My DD is only 7th grader, she plays up and her coaches have suggested some "show case" type events so coaches start to see her. I chuckled, I mean she is 12..and even tho as her parent I think she is pretty decent, who would even look at a 12 year old??
On a side note, I love this girl's video with the dual views...but would have liked to see the catcher's angle because from behind you don't get the feel that it is 63 MPH.

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At 12, IMO start researching recruiting and get ducks in a row.
At 13-14, IF she is a standout, play up to 16U. Get a list of the colleges that interest her. Find out what colleges are going to be at the showcase, and send email or letter of "please look at me" ..."I really like you college and program" (been told by coach's they love that), and meet the coach at the tourney.

IF you think she has D1 goals, at 12, send the "please look at me email", and go to the school's summer camp. (Both Walton and Murphy have told me "you want a kid to play at Florida/Bama, send her to our camp."

Congratulations to this young lady and wish her the best, the video looked impressive and 63 MPH at 14
WOW. I was impressed with her overhand throw as well.

Woodstock is about 45 minutes from us, DD actually played on the field where video was made, although DD is older and would not have played against her.

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How does the coach make the offer when they can't talk to kid? I would be interested if the travel coach was the liaison or she called the college coach (which would be pretty good for a 14 year old).

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How do all the receivers I see around have $5000 sets of wheels on their suvs when non of them have jobs?

(being a little facetious...but honest)

Out in Left Field said:

How does the coach make the offer when they can't talk to kid? I would be interested if the travel coach was the liaison or she called the college coach (which would be pretty good for a 14 year old).

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That's what I want to know? We just left a clinic at Youngstown U and the coach said they can't even talk 2017's. They can look at their skill videos, but can't do any more then that, NCCA rules. So I have a hard time with this story.

Out in Left Field said:

How does the coach make the offer when they can't talk to kid? I would be interested if the travel coach was the liaison or she called the college coach (which would be pretty good for a 14 year old).

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I am NOT an expert, but here is my understanding of how college coaches "work around" NCAA recruiting guidelines. College coaches are allowed to contact your TB and HS coaches. They can also contact your pitching or hitting instructor. If your DD attends their camp, they are allowed to talk with you while you are on campus.