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May 6, 2015
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(FYI, posted in parents forum as well) hold a practice in an indoor facility where the parents are "not invited" into the facility (10u team)? indoor facility is warehouse in a light industrial center. Team does hitting work at this facility, there is a cage, and several other stations (trunk rotation, bottom hand tee work, tee work, bunting station with soft toss, etc.). Team has had several practices already here, parents milled about or brought chairs in. last practice there, also had a couple of guest players who were going to join us for tournament that weekend (practice was thursday, tournament got rained out), and a lot of siblings, other kids. I think this is why the change (ie parents no longer invited in), several of the kids were pretty rowdy, flinging balls across pool table there, messing with one training tool (almost like a heavy bag on a directional swivel, for developing power I guess).

other things I am not happy about:

have one girl at plate, rest of team lined up along 3rd base line, girl at plate is trying to lay down bunt, rest of team is squaring up to pitch as well?

have ALL girls line up at home, and one by one have them run to first, each time through line varying slightly ( run through, turn, turn and back, turn and go)?

for the entire rest of practice (other than 10 minutes of throwing as warmups) have 6-7 girls in field, coach pitches to a batter, after about 15-20 pitches batter runs, then they play situational as the runners move. once runner comes home second time, they go out in field, another fielder comes in.

given all the above, then, when girls get inattentive/restless/talkative, they talk about "we can just run instead". what do they expect when girls are standing around most of the time, or squaring up to bunt 50+ times in a row?
 
Oct 11, 2010
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Yeah, things will fall apart if you do not keep them busy. Almost impossible to regain control.

(This is also when people get hurt, both coaches and players)
 
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May 6, 2015
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DW and I are more concerned that the coaches would think it OK to have practices where parents cannot observe, especially this young. never heard of this, want to see if anyone else has.
 
Jun 6, 2016
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DW and I are more concerned that the coaches would think it OK to have practices where parents cannot observe, especially this young. never heard of this, want to see if anyone else has.

It sounds like the reason for this rule has nothing to do with not wanting parents to observe though. If you have an indoor space with not enough room (and a bunch of inconsiderate parents bringing their other kids, who are causing trouble), there may be no choice.

One of my team rules is that all outdoor practices are open for parents, but indoor practices are not because our gym is small and there's nowhere for parents to safely gather.

The indoor practices you describe sound a lot better than the outdoor practices, by the way.
 
May 6, 2015
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then why not say no kids other than players? I have a real issue with a team wanting to take kids this young out of sight. Not saying there is anything behind the change, but I think it is bad precedent. It is not like there is a hallway, or foyer, or anything to wait in either. what are we supposed to do, sit in our cars parked in the street?

indoor practices are better btw, because they are always doing something. was the same thing in winter when once a week they worked out indoors in a local school gym, small groups, 4/5 max, working on a skill for most of the practice.
 
Jun 11, 2013
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Unless you have some sort of plan you sell to the parents, I think they have the right to watch especially at 10U. You certainly can set rules like no coaching,etc but
they parents pay the money so they should be able to see what is going on. If one is causing a problem it's good to talk to them in private and set them straight.
 
May 4, 2014
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(FYI, posted in parents forum as well) hold a practice in an indoor facility where the parents are "not invited" into the facility (10u team)? indoor facility is warehouse in a light industrial center. Team does hitting work at this facility, there is a cage, and several other stations (trunk rotation, bottom hand tee work, tee work, bunting station with soft toss, etc.). Team has had several practices already here, parents milled about or brought chairs in. last practice there, also had a couple of guest players who were going to join us for tournament that weekend (practice was thursday, tournament got rained out), and a lot of siblings, other kids. I think this is why the change (ie parents no longer invited in), several of the kids were pretty rowdy, flinging balls across pool table there, messing with one training tool (almost like a heavy bag on a directional swivel, for developing power I guess).

other things I am not happy about:

have one girl at plate, rest of team lined up along 3rd base line, girl at plate is trying to lay down bunt, rest of team is squaring up to pitch as well?

have ALL girls line up at home, and one by one have them run to first, each time through line varying slightly ( run through, turn, turn and back, turn and go)?

for the entire rest of practice (other than 10 minutes of throwing as warmups) have 6-7 girls in field, coach pitches to a batter, after about 15-20 pitches batter runs, then they play situational as the runners move. once runner comes home second time, they go out in field, another fielder comes in.

given all the above, then, when girls get inattentive/restless/talkative, they talk about "we can just run instead". what do they expect when girls are standing around most of the time, or squaring up to bunt 50+ times in a row?

Holding a practice without parents being able to view it is asking for Trouble at any age ... the black and white rule is stupid - all that is needed is to let parents know they are not to engage the kids while in practice and hat the facility is not open to siblings - problem solved

As for the outdoor practice your coach has no imagination and doesn't know how to run an effective practice - he should have multiple stations and keep all kids engaged - situational practice is necessary but shouldn't take bull of practice with people milling around specially at the younger divisions




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Nov 29, 2009
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Holding a practice without parents being able to view it is asking for Trouble at any age ... the black and white rule is stupid - all that is needed is to let parents know they are not to engage the kids while in practice and hat the facility is not open to siblings - problem solved

While it's easy to criticize the coach, we don't know what the layout and size of the facility. The "No Siblings" thing is not that easy. Often time's one parent is working so the other parent is responsible for getting the player to practice and watching the other siblings. It can be hard for parents to find a babysitter for the siblings. Other life things happen making it necessary to drag siblings along. Trying to keep them under control for a couple of hours can be a difficult thing, especially if there are other kids their age there. They will want to play.

With a bunch of kids running around a facility causing chaos it's possible the team coach got a letter or face-to-face about ancillary kids running around and the potential for one of them to get hurt. Coaching a 10U team is tough enough. Trying to watch the others running loose in a facility is asking way too much of a coaching staff.

A solution to the problem may be to have a designated parent watch the practice who is unencumbered by other kids to watch. The coach would be good to designate the parent. An email to the parents explaining the situation would go a long way.
 
May 16, 2016
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As others have said the sibling issue can be a real PIA. We trained from Jan-March at an indoor facility and there were times where i felt I spent way too much time watching the players siblings instead of coaching. There was a little room for people to watch practice but the the kids would keep getting in the way. For instance we would have 3 players in a cage at the same time hitting into the sides of the cage, one doing tee work, another doing flips from the side and other drills. The siblings would keep getting to close to the side of the cage and could of possibly been hurt by ball being hit into the side of the cage.

I do not like the parents not being invited to practice at the 10u level either. Too many sick people in this world.
 
Aug 9, 2013
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Short answer - unless for liability reasons, I never stopped parents from watching. At a facility I used in the past, there was a very tight viewing area that could only accommodate 3-4 parents. We would get a few to stick around and I'd also occasionally pull them in to help with something. Once I started getting them to help, they stopped coming. :) In any case, unless there are liability issues in the warehouse, you really can't bar them.
 

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