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May 6, 2015
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I have coached LL softball for past 2 years (2 years of coach pitch, 2 years of 10u, which normally becomes 7, 8,and 9 yr olds in our league). this year, as DD2 joined a travel team (but also still playing LL), and there would be enough coaches without me, I decided not to coach, worried that I could not make time commitment between DD1 (several FH teams, plus her juniors LL softball team) and DD2s activities and coaching a team. I did indicate that I would like to help out when I am there (looks like we will only make about half of the LL practices, travel practice comes first).

First practice, went pretty well overall, have known HC (a lady, I am male, for what that is worth, might be relevant to question) for a few years now, pretty friendly.

My question relates to two scenarios in practice (kept my mouth shut during the practice).

one she has them do BP one buy one (well 1.5 by one, one getting ready, while another is hitting), while rest of team is on the field defensively. of course, only about 1 in 5 pitches, if that is hit, and that is with other AC (HC's husband) throwing pretty much meatballs, slow ones. To me this is #1 thing not to do with valuable practice time. 6 or 7 girls (only 9 on team) standing doing nothing watching AC pitch to batter, every now and then a hit. and there is a batting cage with machine available. My alternative would be to suggest that one of us hit balls to fielders (with baserunners if we have enough girls), with another coaching them on proper play in the field, while third has them one at a time in batting cage (and even some tee work). better for hitters, better for fielders. At this age and skill level, they need a lot of fundamental work, with a little game type scenario work near end to bring it all together.

next, she wanted to work on cutoffs, so she lines up a SS and 2B, had rest go out into OF in two lines (one in LF, one in RF), alternating hitting to each field, so while RF field a ball, 3 girls in LF are standing there, then vice versa. I kind of stood there (other AC was hurling balls into OF. My tweak here would be only do one side at a time, and take the girls that would be in the other side of OF, and work in small group with them on some type fast moving simple drill.

don't want to seem overbearing, just make some suggestions based on my experience. should i say something or not? don't want to seem a jerk, but also want to give the girls the best possible practices, making best use of everyone's time, and hold their interest. I may even see if she is open to me taking say two aside at a time, of those who need the most fundamental work (ie how to catch, how to throw), and just do that for a good portion of each practice. making good progress on fundamentals with the girls most deficient in them is going to make the biggest difference for the team I believe (weakest link theory). I know for a fact she is going to move girls around a lot, and get them all some IF time, so I want them to be ready and succeed.
 
Oct 11, 2010
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Tread carefully. :)

Hitting practice you describeed drives me nuts. Especially if you are there to volunteer I would offer to work with fielders while she does hitting or visa versa. Hopefully they will get more help and be able to do both without you. Their team though, you are not in charge.

I would leave cutoff practice alone until batting is a little better.
 
May 6, 2015
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MOr eI think about, not going to make specific suggestions (except would she like me to take girls aside one or two at a time and work on specific skill for say 15 minutes at a time), just general suggestion that we break them down into small groups (with only 9, now 10 I think, HC's younger DD decided she does want to play after all), pretty easy to do small groups even with only 2-3 coaches), and work on fundamental drills with them at least for next couple of practices. to me that is really the key, whatever it is you are doing with the girls, keep them all doing something as much as possible, not standing watching others do something.

by the way, she is much better at connecting with the girls than I am, really good at grabbing their attention, etc. just wish we were not delayed starting practice by mother nature :( was also only first practice, she may have really needed to see what she had to work with.
 

JAD

Feb 20, 2012
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I would tread lightly, and offer your assistance to see if the HC accepts. Your best option is to work with your DD at home to make sure she is honing her hitting and fielding skills. If your DD aspires to play high level TB and you are relying on a REC coach to get her there you are missing the boat...
 
May 24, 2013
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"Here's an idea I have used in the past that seemed to work pretty well for keeping the girls more involved during limited practice time..."

Make suggestions without it being pushy. If HC goes with it, cool. If not, also cool.
 
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not counting on ref ball to get Dd up to TB speed, she is playing on a low level TB team now, this is in addition, mainly to play with her friends (TB is one twon over, started out not knowing anybody). just trying to maximize the experience for the entire team. basically felt like too much standing around. my typical practices were girls in groups of 2-4, depending on drill, very little standing. to me, standing = boring and unproductive time
 
May 24, 2013
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I strongly agree with minimizing standing around, especially with younger age groups - boredom leads to distraction very quickly. If you have enough coaches, running multiple stations with small groups is a good tactic.
 
May 6, 2015
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now that we have had a few outdoor travel practices (10u), same question kind of rears its head. HC and both ACs played and still play softball, HC was apparently accomplished HS/D1 player (15-20 yrs ago). However, not certain this is translating to coaching. Not certain if any have coached young girls in softball before.

Last outdoor practice was (after warmups) entire team in field with HC hitting to them, one AC in outfield, one AC catching the balls coming back from P. eventually you could see girls got a little bored/tired (at least those not rotated through 1B, as 75% was making play at first (plays at second or third were focus of maybe 1/3 of this scenario).

My take form what I have seen from indoor workouts and two outdoor practices is that some of the girls still really need a lot of fundamental work (fielding/catching the ball, throwing the ball). Hard to get them the reps they need in a one ball among 9 girls scenario. I think they could be better served using 2/3 the practice time on drill in small groups, with the grouping done by ability. this way, the coach running a particular drill can tailor it to the skill level, and they are all getting more repetition. the girls definitely need the complete team work in the field as well, but without a firm handle on fundamentals, knowing where to go and what to do with the ball is not much use if they do not execute the skills needed.

How can I point this out to the HC without seeming like a know it all (have worked very hard not to coach from sidelines, not always successful, but mostly so, only helping out by catching for DD during pitching practice when they are short on catchers)? As someone who has coached softball before, I know how it feels as a volunteer coach to be questioned by those who did step up themselves, so I do not want it taken wrong way.
 

Greenmonsters

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Feb 21, 2009
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now that we have had a few outdoor travel practices (10u), same question kind of rears its head. HC and both ACs played and still play softball, HC was apparently accomplished HS/D1 player (15-20 yrs ago). However, not certain this is translating to coaching. Not certain if any have coached young girls in softball before.

Last outdoor practice was (after warmups) entire team in field with HC hitting to them, one AC in outfield, one AC catching the balls coming back from P. eventually you could see girls got a little bored/tired (at least those not rotated through 1B, as 75% was making play at first (plays at second or third were focus of maybe 1/3 of this scenario).

My take form what I have seen from indoor workouts and two outdoor practices is that some of the girls still really need a lot of fundamental work (fielding/catching the ball, throwing the ball). Hard to get them the reps they need in a one ball among 9 girls scenario. I think they could be better served using 2/3 the practice time on drill in small groups, with the grouping done by ability. this way, the coach running a particular drill can tailor it to the skill level, and they are all getting more repetition. the girls definitely need the complete team work in the field as well, but without a firm handle on fundamentals, knowing where to go and what to do with the ball is not much use if they do not execute the skills needed.

How can I point this out to the HC without seeming like a know it all (have worked very hard not to coach from sidelines, not always successful, but mostly so, only helping out by catching for DD during pitching practice when they are short on catchers)? As someone who has coached softball before, I know how it feels as a volunteer coach to be questioned by those who did step up themselves, so I do not want it taken wrong way.

Get there early, leave a practice plan with drill diagrams and instructions on the bench, leave, come back and feign ignorance :rolleyes:
 

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