Idk

DD went to training camp and very nice and knowledge person tried to change her.

She has poor form in both throwing and hitting.

She does ok, always struggling if i should chang her.

As Mike Candrea says "throwing is hitting and hitting is throwing." How is her hitting? Do you have any video?
In general, I would ask "Why go to a camp, if you aren't willing to change?"

Hi Amy have not seen you in a while.


Posted 1 video, did not go well for me or DD?

Amy in AZ. said:

As Mike Candrea says "throwing is hitting and hitting is throwing." How is her hitting? Do you have any video?
In general, I would ask "Why go to a camp, if you aren't willing to change?"

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Curious as to what that quote from Mike Candrea means exactly. Sat here for a minute but didn't figure it out.

As for the original post I would agree that if knowledgeable folks have advice I don't see why you shouldn't consider it. But I admit I've had the same question. Have heard people compliment dd's swing so many times and now some recommend changing it. Probably tweaks that definitely improve but it has crossed my mind whether there's danger of messing things up. i guess if you get similar advice multiple times, too, then that would help in knowing if it's good advice.

Solid throwing and hitting mechanics both involve proper sequencing of the lower body (first) and upper body(second). There are very few players that swing the bat well and throw poorly (and vice versa).

Why? is a wonderful question. I expect my athletes to ask me "Why?", I almost demand that they do.

Female athletes are thinkers. They analyze everything. It is a quality and trait I love about working with them. Once I convince an athlete that this is the most logical and efficient use of their body mechanics, their improvement happens much faster. It also helps them focus when they are not being monitored, because they have "bought into" the concept or movement. They thought about it, analyzed it, and now they understand the Why of it.

When someone suggests a change, ask them why. Process the information and determine if it makes sense, is logical, and/or viable for the age and skill level. Some coaches can't explain the why, and those are to be avoided.

Coach says "Squish the bug",
Player/Parent says "Why?"
Coach says "Ummm, because you need to keep your weight back to generate power."
Player/Parent thinks "Weight back to generate power forward doesn't sound logical nor does it make a lot of sense"
Player/Parent says "Ok" and then finds a hitting coach that knows what they are teaching.

You will hear a lot of different things in your travels as player and parent. You will have many coaches over this journey. Know the why of this journey. Do you want to be mediocre or great? Are you fine with OK or do you want to see how far this game can go? Once you figure out the Why of your journey, it will be much more enjoyable.

Amy in AZ. said:

"Why go to a camp, if you aren't willing to change?"

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Short anwser is she has a good time, me too. I can think of worse ways to spend an afternoon.

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Curious as to what that quote from Mike Candrea means exactly. Sat here for a minute but didn't figure it out.

As for the original post I would agree that if knowledgeable folks have advice I don't see why you shouldn't consider it. But I admit I've had the same question. Have heard people compliment dd's swing so many times and now some recommend changing it. Probably tweaks that definitely improve but it has crossed my mind whether there's danger of messing things up. i guess if you get similar advice multiple times, too, then that would help in knowing if it's good advice.

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I think Candrea is talking about how the outcome is what matters, not what goes into it, at least that's my interpretation.

One of the best shortstops I've ever seen is Madison Shipman. Her throwing motion is something no instructor anywhere would ever teach a young player. Kind of a three-quarters, almost sidearm sling. But I guarantee you she can throw it harder and more accurate than 99% of D1 shortstops out there. She has a cannon. Seeing it in person, just the warmups between innings, will leave you in awe.

Look at Alex Hugo's swing. What instructor would ever build a new hitter with that swing? But a hugely successful 4-year career in the SEC later, tell me she should have changed anything?

Point is...the form and mechanics used are nice and all, but isn't it the end result that matters? If you can hit, you can hit. If you can throw, you can throw. So what if your this angle, or that position, or the square root of your inseam divided by the sum of your wingspan multiplied by pi less the sum of your height times the whatever...girls come in all shapes and sizes, different torsos lengths, inseams, strength, flexibility, coordination, height, weight, proportion, top heavy, bottom heavy, etc. What works for one will not work for all. A "model swing" as I've seen it called, is only for the girl the model swing was built for.

Sometimes the technical stuff gets in the way of just getting it done.