College bound kids -- it's the Indian, not the Arrow

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Aug 19, 2015
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For many professional fields (law, medicine, MBA, etc...), what matters most when it comes time for the first job is where you were most recently (e.g., law school, MBA school, residency), not where you went to undergrad. So, I think it makes sense to save the big bucks for grad school (if needed for the career you want to pursue) and go somewhere more affordable for undergrad, even if that means bypassing the Ivy League. Of course, if money is no object or you get a full ride somewhere, go for it. I went to an expensive liberal arts college, but I will have NO and I mean NO objections to DD going to a big state school (and in-state tuition!).
 
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Apr 20, 2015
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Depends on your field. Getting into med school undergrad matters some. Once your in if you want to be a primary care doctor nobody cares where you went to med school. If you want to be a specialist then some highly competitive residency's are very picky. Other fields are probably the same way, but for most of us with "regular" jobs be it doctors, lawyers, business people, teachers whatever just go to school, do well and graduate and you're fine

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Apr 20, 2015
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I have absolutely no idea if going to the undergrad part of a university with a strong med school helps or not.

DD 1 is going as an undergrad at the same place as her first choice med school -- Wisconsin. What can I do, she loves Madison. Must be the snow.
There are a few advantages. For example, she sometimes shadows a doctor here who lets very few students shadow him. But, there are family ties.
Through school and family ties, she may know a few people on the acceptance committee. I don't know if that helps or not.

DD 3 asked me if she should attend an undergrad college that has a good med school in the university. I really have no idea at all.

My mother has a very close friend who used to be head of the Arkansas med school admissions committee, but he is 98 and in failing health.
Med schools like their own students other factors being equal...if you can look at statistics for the ones she's interested in that will help her decision but it really comes down to qualifications and test scores when it comes to med school. 2 equally qualified students and the homegrown one might have the edge. A better quality student from another school still probably beats a lesser quality student from the home institution.

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Jul 16, 2013
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DD has been faced with similar decisions. Her goal is to acquire a Doctorate in Physical Therapy. It is possible to get an undergrad at one school, and then apply to a different graduate school to pursue the DPT part of it. But many of those programs only accept a limited amount of students. Very early on she realized that it was to her benefit to apply to schools that offered guaranteed seats into that program. She applied to a total of 8 schools and was accepted at all 8. 3 of them offered guaranteed seats for DPT and she was offered seats at each of the 3. That immediately eliminated the other 5 schools from contention. She just couldn't pass up a guaranteed seat for her program of choice.
 
Jul 16, 2013
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Very wise of her.

It is interesting to see how things work. In some areas it is harder to get into a DPT program than med school. About 20 years ago, I spent a year as a visiting faculty member at the University of Central Arkansas, which had one of the very first DPT programs, IIRC. It was harder to get into than the U Arkansas Med School, depending on what county the applicant was from. I gather that is not so uncommon these days.

The college she will be attending only accepts 50 students into the graduate program each year. They also offer 50 guaranteed seats each year. If all students that accept the guaranteed seats progress into the graduate program, no seats will be available for any other applicants. The only openings will be from students that either don't make it through the undergraduate work, switch majors, or switch schools. That typically doesn't leave many openings. Each school is a little different, but the guaranteed seat is definitely difficult to pass up.
 

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