Confusing Situation With Senior Daughter Not Getting Playing Time On HS Team

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No one writes a long paragraph about my kid had an issue and went to the coach or a teacher and the coach saw it her way.

Huh?

We had a thread entitled, "My DD's coach convinced me I was wrong" back in '06...I think.
 
Feb 17, 2014
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Well, sometimes the other player IS the point.

If a coach chooses player A over player B, and player B thinks she is a much better player, then the relative abilities of the players ARE germane to the conversation.

But what you think doesn't matter. The only thing that does is what the person making the decision thinks. You're not going to change their mind by giving them your opinion especially if that involves another player. The only thing you can do is go to work and hope your performance changes their opinion.
 
Mar 22, 2018
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I'll be honest, you hurt her situation.

1. Coaches never want to talk to parents. As a senior, ready to become an adult, your DD should have been the one discussing playing time with her coach. You are not part of the team.

2. It also sounds like your conversation with the coach and the AC got contentious. Arguing about plays, errors and the book is certainly not going to endear you to them and will probably take it out on your DD.

3. Politics. There are many many posts on here about the politics of HS sports and coaches. If your DD missed playing time and the Ath Dir daughter stepped in, and also has a relationship with the coach, your DD is the odd one out. You can bet the AD and the HC are probably talking about your complaining. Since the HC has little history with your DD, she has no loyalty to her. What she did last year is not a factor and they haven't wanted to get to see her much this year.

Let her try to talk to the coach about how to earn more playing time, to help the team wherever she can. It's got to be about the team, not her. Other than that, just let her be a senior on the team and enjoy what's left of her HS career, especially since this is likely the end of softball

And you should step back from the situation and let her handle it. Sorry for being blunt, but you asked for opinions.

On a related note, maybe she shouldn't give up on D3 softball. My DD is a sophomore considering Nursing as well. She's looking at D3's that have Nursing majors on the roster and talking with coaches and Deans of Nursing schools that will work with the student-athletes so they can balance both, especially during clinicals. Depending on the schools your DD is looking at, maybe it's not out of the question. Good luck!

I knew beforehand that I shouldn't have talked to the coach but I was getting disgusted with the situation. I don't think I hurt her situation because it was apparently in motion anyway. She's a senior and it wasn't going to make a difference one way or another. The argument if you want to call it that went a different direction when they (the coaches) apparently tried to bring things up that made no sense whatsoever to the situation. A second assistant, who was here last year, t least said he know my daughter will make those tough catches but he said nothing else. I even asked the head coach if the assistant coach asked his opinion if she didn't know who played where and when if she wasn't here last year. She said she does. Well, I just heard something positive come out of his mouth but I guess it didn't matter at that point. This is not the first time there have been problem's with the athletic director's daughter. She has missed some practices because of track but she still plays. She has missed softball practices to play travel volleyball but still gets to play softball. She's good at a lot of things but not great. Plus she only interacts with one other player on the team. It almost seems like she is there just so she can get another award or have the coach nominate her for an all-star game, like in volleyball in basketball. It is just very frustrating.

College softball might still be an option but I think she make the right choice for now.
 
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With regards to quitting, I don't think that's the right answer either. I know that a lot of what we are trying to do here is use these sports to teach our DD's life lessons. HS softball is not like real life in that you can't quit and go play some where else. With a job you can quit and go get another one. With HS softball, you quit and you're not playing HS softball any where else.

Quitting reflects on you. I wouldn't want that to be reflected on my DD. I would want my DD to be the best teammate and cheer leader for her teammates. Some times life just doesn't go your way. I want my DD to be Brittany Rogers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6VhKtCkE20
 
Jun 8, 2016
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I'm still waiting for some threads titled "My kid is playing but she shouldn't be" just to balance things out a bit :p

In all seriousness, I am not sure what kind of advice you are looking for at this point. You talked to the coach, I wouldn't have, but you
did doesn't make you a horrible person. You know the options she has 1) Quit 2) Maintain status quo, hopefully enjoy her friends and move on
3) ramp up her commitment level e.g. extra BP,fielding, workouts etc. May not help but at least she can tell herself
she did everything she could to get back on the field and wouldn't have any regrets. That choice should be your DD's alone.
 
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Feb 4, 2015
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#Holy Toledo,

And btw, welcome to DFP! You chose a very tough first post! While we always don't agree with each other, and sometimes can be a bit sarcastic with one another, we all have one thing in common... we love our warrior princess goddess DD's and want the best for them. And overall, DFP is a supportive community.

So this is a great thread, and as you can see we've all been in your shoes in some fashion, which is why it's sparked so much response.

Please stay, and give us updates on how your DD's season is going. I hope she kicks butt.
 
Nov 16, 2015
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Well, sometimes the other player IS the point.

If a coach chooses player A over player B, and player B thinks she is a much better player, then the relative abilities of the players ARE germane to the conversation.

reverse the roles. Are you ok with player A's parents going to the coach to talk about your daughter without your presence? Its not going to be a conversation telling the coach how wonderful your dd is. It will be with negative tones.
 
Mar 22, 2018
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It always amuses me when someone says "Coaches don't like to talk to parents" or "coaches....(fill in the blanks)." You guys try to elevate these coaches to some kind of mythical beings. They are humans and not all coaches share the same feelings. If this coach did not like the parent talking for his child, the coach should have said something then and not punish the kid for what the parent did. Till my child turns 18, I am responsible for my child so I am going to be involved in her activities.

I am all for teaching the child the responsibility and in this particular situation and if that is what this coach is trying to do, let the parent know and not screw the kid over during her senior year. Coaches are not robots who can only make either or decisions.

I don't really have anything against the coaches who have rules about parents talking to them about certain things. Yes, my daughter could have talked to the coach as well but would it have changed anything. My guess is that it wouldn't. I believe she would have received the same used up lines - work harder, extra practice, etc. My daughter had been in offseason softball with the coach and was playing travel ball prior to her injury, the AD's daughter was not. The coach knew what she was getting from my daughter. She had no idea what she was getting from the AD's daughter.

You're right, how could she punish my daughter any further with just me talking to her. It was already happening. I guess what upsets me a little more is that there is very little communication between the coach and the players. It's not existent with the parents for sure. Like I mentioned, the coach never once in several opportunities said anything about my daughter's injury to my wife or I. I would have expected something like I hope she get's better, she's moving around pretty good, I hope to see her at practice soon - just something but she never said a word. For me that tell me that at least she cares about what happened but there was none of that.
 
Mar 22, 2018
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Your DD (not YOU, but your DD) has two choices:

Stick with it, it's just one last spring with her friends, maybe when the HC sees she has recovered, and sees what she can do, the HC will give her more playing time. Or, maybe not.

Or,

Quit the team and never look back. She doesn't have to quit today, but when she feels like she will never get a fair chance from this coach.


Have your DD decide what to do. I could make a strong case either way.

MY DD will definitely stick with it. Quitting is really not an option she wishes to pursue. She does enjoy the camaraderie no doubt but doesn't it seem that you get treated a little different when all of the sudden your sitting on the bench for no apparent reason. Maybe things will change a bit but there's only a month and half left.
 

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