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BadMonkeys · Sep 27, 2013

momx4-

The timeline of the story sounds strange to me. Your DD tried out for a team in May, it is now 9/27 and they only played their first tournament a few weeks ago?

The reason I inquire is because it doesn't sound like a standard issue team which could add context to your story.

justanotherguy · Sep 27, 2013

JJsqueeze said:
no offense but

Just love it any time someone starts off with, "no offense...but". Well, that pretty much guarantees the person will be offended. LOL It's kinda like here in the south, starting with, "Bless her heart" kinda guarantees said mouth breather is about to say something offensive.

PERSONALLY, on any team I'm PAYING for my DD to be on, if a coach ever informed my kid she was on the chopping block then we'd make the decision for him. Buh bye. My thoughts are, you chose this kid to be on your team. You should not continually sit anyone you ASKED to be a part of your team, nor should you tell them they're on the chopping block.

SCDad · Sep 27, 2013

Your player is a middle infielder. It is a complement, take it as one. Whether she plays SS or 2B is a personal preference by the coach.

Take 2B, be proud, be happy, and be the best. Another team, another day, you will probably get SS. Not today.

For a team to win, these type things happen all the time. Either play to win, or not. We play for winners, and are happy whenever we find a regular spot on the field.

Winning is so much better than always getting your way. Mostly, the winners do so because everyone gives up something for the betterment of the team.

pizza-boy01 · Sep 27, 2013

I guess I'm just wondering if you were personally involved in these conversations between the coaching staff and Your DD. By your description, you have a HC suffering from what I can only assume to be a borderline multiple-personality disorder. You also have an AC that, for some undetermined reason, feels the need to telegraph to his players the coaching staff's intention to cut them; along with the warning that, if they tell anyone, they'll really cut them.

I've been around travel ball for many years, and I don't know that I've run across many coaching staffs as dysfunctional as this one's described to be. However, what I have seen, on several occasions, are young ladies who may misinterpret what a coach is trying to say; or may embellish a conversion to achieve a certain reaction from Mom and Dad. I guess I'd want to know that the story I was hearing was gospel.

Easton33 · Sep 27, 2013

Ease up on OP. She makes some valid points. A coach should not promise a position, every player should earn their spot. That is not the case here. He promised her SS, he should keep his word or cut her. Maybe she had the opportunity to play SS elsewhere but chose this team because he promised? The fact he promised and that his asst coach had the conversation with her prove this is low level ball. (Regardless of class) OP you should leave the team.

Actually, in your defense, it sounds like you have stuck with it because of your commitment. A+ on that and most teams don't have parents that loyal. I think your big mistake was not evaluating the coaches before you joined the team. If all you say is true, he has probably made these missteps before.

Regardless of score or baserunners, a ground ball is still a ground ball. In other words, an error is an error and there is no big and small. IMO

You know you should move your child. Good luck with the new team.

wichita · Sep 28, 2013

Rocketech1 said:
I would talk to the head coach about the conversation the assistant coach had with your DD which is totally unacceptable. If she gets cut because of this conversation than so be it, this isn't the team for her.

With that said, no coach should ever guarantee a position to any players. They must earn the position and should CONTINUE to earn the position throughout the season. My question to you is why do you think the coach doesn't want your DD playing short stop if she is the best short stop on the team? Is the coaching staff out to get her or maybe they have a different opinion of her level of play than you have of your DD? Unless you think they are playing daddy ball, IME most coaches want to field the best possible defensive team they can and rotate in secondary players as certain positions as back-up. Your post is riddled with a "sense of entitlement". By the way, playing middle infielder is so much more than whether or not a player made more errors than another player. To name a few: strong arm (especially SS), know their cut-off assignments, cover bases correctly, backing up plays correctly, aggressively charge the ball, are they quick on their feet, can they track infield pop-ups effectively, do they communicate with their other fielders, etc. There is so much more to playing defense than number of errors.

Bold above is exactly true ... had one of the best coaches Ive ever had a privilege to know told me once that if you tell a kid that a position is there's they will not progress skill wise like they will if they have to fight for a position on a daily basis. its just the way the human brain works ... if there's no competition the brain will just settle for being as good as you are because there's no competition or reason to get better. My DD grew leaps and bounds at SS in her last 14U year of travel with this coach because if you had a bad game albeit errors or bad decisions etc. you played the bench the next game..... it just the way it is...

JJsqueeze · Sep 28, 2013

justanotherguy said:
Just love it any time someone starts off with, "no offense...but". Well, that pretty much guarantees the person will be offended. LOL It's kinda like here in the south, starting with, "Bless her heart" kinda guarantees said mouth breather is about to say something offensive.
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It was meant to be ironic...and breathing through your mouth is more efficient volume wise...grunt grunt. OP still sounds like she has volumes...(that's stacks of issues bound in a thick cover to the uninitiated).....The post is too chock full O' whiney, complainy stuff to be fair. It may be dismissive but any time I see a post with the whole "bad coach is mistreating my daughter" slant, I look at it sideways. When it is a first post it is even more of a red flag that the source may be one color short of a rainbow. "let me join a forum so I can B&$*% and Moan?"....try contributing first then complain? My wife complains but she has the decency to do the dishes first...

justanotherguy · Sep 28, 2013

JJsqueeze said:
My wife complains but she has the decency to do the dishes first...

You just lost a whole lot of brownie points!

joemcq51 · Sep 28, 2013

when she made errors, they are always very few/minimal

That is a Mom's opinion, not the coaches

Girl makes a play, that while it seemed spectacular for her, was really only spectacular because she is super-short

So in other words, she made a great play

Only 3 players (which does include my DD & the girl who replaced her at SS) could be actually classified as select players

So the coach is playing 2 of his best 3 players at SS and 2B

we are left wondering why he doesn't cut the players who constantly make mistakes?
told her she was on the choping block

Sounds like he may be heading in that direction.

Mom, it really seems like you are looking at this from a loving parents point of view. Let the coach run the team. You have choices if you are not happy with your position or playing time. I think my DD is a pretty good pitcher. If she was on a team where the coach thought she should be in RF, I would either support her in RF or help her find a team where she will pitch. By allowing your DD to think she should be the SS, and every other girl makes more errors, you are not helping her. She needs to work hard and win the job. If it is a position that she can't win for whatever reason (political, ability, parental, etc) you either accept it or move on.

rdbass · Sep 28, 2013

JJsqueeze said:
It was meant to be ironic...and breathing through your mouth is more efficient volume wise...grunt grunt. OP still sounds like she has volumes...(that's stacks of issues bound in a thick cover to the uninitiated).....The post is too chock full O' whiney, complainy stuff to be fair. It may be dismissive but any time I see a post with the whole "bad coach is mistreating my daughter" slant, I look at it sideways. When it is a first post it is even more of a red flag that the source may be one color short of a rainbow. "let me join a forum so I can B&$*% and Moan?"....try contributing first then complain? My wife complains but she has the decency to do the dishes first...

HaHa.
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