What is the call?

MTR · Sep 22, 2016

3afan said:
the umpire should only and always call "dead ball" for a runner leaving early, never "no pitch".

If a pitch is released, it must be ruled "no pitch" as that is the direct result of a dead ball. As ludicrous as it may sound, there will be an arguments about the result of the pitch that really didn't happen because it was a dead ball.

3afan · Sep 23, 2016

when a runner leaves early - its a DEAD BALL, so the call is "DEAD BALL" ... that's only logical and that's was I've been taught in every clinic I've attended in my 25 yr fast pitch career.

But, in the end end, I guess it really doesn't matter if the call is DB or NP, except maybe to your evaluator.

riseball · Sep 23, 2016

Comp said:
The umpire should have called no pitch the instant the runner left prior to the ball being released by the pitcher and called the runner out. However, if the umpire didnt see or call the leaving early, now you have an illegal pitch. Unless the umpire calls no pitch or dead ball, the pitcher should always complete their pitching motion.

From the description it sounds as if this was the typical motion of the pitcher on every pitch. There are rules governing if the pitcher commits an illegal pitch for the purpose of causing the runner to leave early. If that were to be the case, the leaving early is ignored and the illegal pitch penalty is enforced.

I instruct my pitchers that once they break their hands, ALWAYS complete the pitch. You never stop your motion as it is an excellent way to get injured.

NCASAUmp · Sep 23, 2016

In ASA, the call is "no pitch." Can't imagine USSSA would be any different.

But does it really matter, guys? We're killing the play, calling the runner out, and the pitch does not count.

What is the call?

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