Was I duped or educated?

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Apr 29, 2015
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I am wondering if I was duped or educated. Game situation is lone runner on 1B and batter flies out to mid CF. Girl playing first (this is high school) not only caught the ball touching 1B, but also swiped a tag across the runner thinking she was off the bag. Runner had beat the throw to 1B, but her momentum also carried her completely into foul territory and she stopped with one foot on the orange bag and nothing touching any of the white portion of the double base at the time of the tag. You guessed it, Ump ruled her safe, but opposing coach protested the call.

He argued the orange portion of the double base was only applicable for the batter as they ran to 1B, saying it's sole purpose was to protect the fielder and runner from contact in that situation. He further argued the orange portion "essentially disappears" when a runner is at 1B and they are not entitled to use it as sanctuary when over running the white portion. The umps agreed and called the runner out.

The outcome of this call had zero impact on the result. We lost 0-10 and the game outcome really wasn't in doubt once their bus had hit the parking lot. I'm just curious if I was duped (along with the umps) or did I experience the opportunity to learn something I didn't know.
 

JAD

Feb 20, 2012
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Georgia
I will let the DFP umpires give you an official ruling, but I think your umpires got the call right.
 
Jun 22, 2008
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The double base is only for plays on the batter/runner. Once the batter/runner is safe, the base just becomes one double size base and both the offense and defense may use both the white and colored portions.
 

Greenmonsters

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Feb 21, 2009
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The double base is only for plays on the batter/runner. Once the batter/runner is safe, the base just becomes one double size base and both the offense and defense may use both the white and colored portions.

In other words, both you and the "umpires" were duped!
 
Mar 13, 2010
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Columbus, Ohio
You wuz robbed!

The whole thing about the colored base "disappearing" is actually a rule in USSSA slow pitch softball. I assume those aren't the rules you use in any high school fastpitch game...

For ASA and NFHS, it's like Comp posted. After the initial play on a batter-runner, the double base becomes one big single base and the offense or defense can use any portion of it just like it was a regular old base.
 
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Oct 22, 2009
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The double base is only for plays on the batter/runner. Once the batter/runner is safe, the base just becomes one double size base and both the offense and defense may use both the white and colored portions.

I love this forum. I just learned something new.:cool:
 
Oct 4, 2014
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funny this question came up. on sunday, my dd playing first caught a foul ball and dove back to bag as runner, for some unknown reason, left the bag. my dd just reached orange portion and the ump called the girl safe. he even said my dd beat the runner but since she did not touch the white part, safe. I started to argue but figured out it would have been useless. this umpire earlier in the game actually asked me if I could read the time on his phone because he couldn't see it. thought I was on candid camera...

you gotta love this game
 
Mar 2, 2013
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This was a rule change probably 5+ years ago. Back then, the colored base "disappeared" once the batter-runner reached 1st base. Since then, it has become "one big base" for all purposes once BR reaches 1st base. There was no need to change the rule, but they did. I guess too many runners were being called out for standing on the colored base (usually because the 1st base coach wanted to talk to them and, thus, caused a violation).
 

JAD

Feb 20, 2012
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Georgia
This was a rule change probably 5+ years ago. Back then, the colored base "disappeared" once the batter-runner reached 1st base. Since then, it has become "one big base" for all purposes once BR reaches 1st base. There was no need to change the rule, but they did. I guess too many runners were being called out for standing on the colored base (usually because the 1st base coach wanted to talk to them and, thus, caused a violation).

Does this rule change apply to ASA and High School?
 

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