Book keeping on error

Mumbly · Oct 6, 2014

We use game changer and it's scoring it one way and a parent is wanting it another so I'm asking y'all.

Scenario, 2 outs, runners on 2nd and 3rd. Batter hit's ball to right field where the ball goes in and out of the fielders glove, batter makes it to 1st on the error, both runners on 2nd and 3rd make it home.

Game changer is not giving the batter the 2 RBI's for the runner that made it home.
Mom is insistent that the books be changed showing she has those 2 RBI's.

What's the call on this one?

Thanks in advance.

riseball · Oct 6, 2014

Mumbly said:
We use game changer and it's scoring it one way and a parent is wanting it another so I'm asking y'all.

Scenario, 2 outs, runners on 2nd and 3rd. Batter hit's ball to right field where the ball goes in and out of the fielders glove, batter makes it to 1st on the error, both runners on 2nd and 3rd make it home.

Game changer is not giving the batter the 2 RBI's for the runner that made it home.
Mom is insistent that the books be changed showing she has those 2 RBI's.

What's the call on this one?

Thanks in advance.

Not only is it not an RBI, it is not a hit.

I guess you need to decide if you are going to keep score properly or do it the way mom wants it done. The former gives you valid stats, the latter gives you useless crap.

Learn it, know it, live it:

NCAA Scoring Rules

You may want to print a copy for mom.

sportinus · Oct 6, 2014

I assume you gave RF an error? There fore it would of been 3 outs and no ER's and no RBI's in my opinion

Sweet Lou · Oct 6, 2014

If it was an E9 and it sounds like it was, no hit, not RBIs. If somehow it was credited as a 1B (difficult play?, dove and in and out of glove?) then yes, she would get the 2 RBIs.

We play 10U. It is always funny to she a girl reach 1st on a D3K and the girl comes in from 3rd on the throw 1st and some misguided parent in the stands is yelling, "Way to go RBI". I always chuckle on that, then shake my head wondering where they get this nonsense.

Mumbly · Oct 6, 2014

Sweet Lou said:
If it was an E9 and it sounds like it was, no hit, not RBIs. If somehow it was credited as a 1B (difficult play?, dove and in and out of glove?) then yes, she would get the 2 RBIs.

We play 10U. It is always funny to she a girl reach 1st on a D3K and the girl comes in from 3rd on the throw 1st and some misguided parent in the stands is yelling, "Way to go RBI". I always chuckle on that, then shake my head wondering where they get this nonsense.

It was 8 steps for RF to attempt the catch, she just played it wrong (underhand instead of over head) it hit palm and bounced out. At the time we all saw it as error on the other team and we lucked out for the runs, none the less there is always a couple that are to worried on the stats, so now have MOM going to coach for the change.

riseball thanks for the pdf, might just make a few copies and hand them out at next game

pctrips · Oct 6, 2014

If that was marked as an error in gamechanger it would not have credited any RBIs and would have scored it correctly if you flagged the second runner as scoring on the same error.

SoAZDad · Oct 6, 2014

Mumbly, depending on the age level (through 12U and maybe 14U) and the type of hit, 8 steps may exceed "ordinary effort," if it was a line drive, probably couldn't have gotten to ball in 8 steps, but regardless may have been a hit with RBI. If a pop-up, RF may have had ample time to take 8 steps and get to the ball with ordinary effort and would probably be E9 with no RBI, assuming runner on 3B couldn't tag up. Scorekeeper's decision.

CoogansBluff · Oct 6, 2014

Score it E-Mom.

riseball · Oct 6, 2014

I would give her a HR and 3 RBI's. If you are going to cook the books, go big or go home!

Rocketech1 · Oct 6, 2014

Separate question: hard hit ground ball to RF, player bobbles it and throws to first base, safe by a fraction of a second. You give the RF an error, correct?

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