Thread: Video Review -- 2015 Pitcher had some nice weather up here in Washington!

Originally Posted by 2DDspitching

Anyone that has watched Ernie Parkers videos knows this is how he teaches his curve (step across the power line and throw back across to the other side). It is more of an angle than actual break. I agree with lhowser all these movment pitches arent really moving. If you look at any of Cats videos with this same view and trace the ball you are not going to find much, if any sideways break and she is one the best curve ball picthers. The only movement pitch that moves IMO is the drop and that has more to due with gravity than any thing. Thats why a roll over drops more than a peel (speed affects gravity). And even at that the people that claim there is this late break in the last 4-5 feet, I would love to see video of that to because if you have the software to track the ball it is not happening.

The gauntlet has been cast.

Any takers?

Originally Posted by FiveFrameSwing

The gauntlet has been cast.

Any takers?

Come on now. I realize that the kid in this video isn't throwing a breaking pitch, and many kid pitchers throw like this, using angles for their "rise", "curve", and "screw". HOWEVER, you seem to be inferring that softballs just don't break. I think that anyone who's spent a few hours on a field coaching kids realizes how many of those bad throws from short curve, break, and tail off in the wrong direction when they're throwing to you at first base, so clearly it's a physical possibility.

Spin is what effects the balls breaking. Not angle, not release point, not speed. Spin, and the axis if the spin, and that's it, period.

-W

Originally Posted by starsnuffer

Come on now. I realize that the kid in this video isn't throwing a breaking pitch, and many kid pitchers throw like this, using angles for their "rise", "curve", and "screw". HOWEVER, you seem to be inferring that softballs just don't break. I think that anyone who's spent a few hours on a field coaching kids realizes how many of those bad throws from short curve, break, and tail off in the wrong direction when they're throwing to you at first base, so clearly it's a physical possibility.

Spin is what effects the balls breaking. Not angle, not release point, not speed. Spin, and the axis if the spin, and that's it, period.

-W

Starsnuffer ... I am inferring nothing of the sort in that post.

2DDspitching is the one casting the gauntlet.

I totally understand that a lot of young kids simply use the angles.

I had the privilege to catch Mr White's curveballs ..... my brain registered a 'break'.

2DDspitching is calling on the Hanson Principle. He wants video evidence. Do you have it?

I'm still trying to find good video. I know a pitcher who threw great curves at San Jose State years ago, I'll see if she has video.

I did find a really good video on youtube of how to redneck a curveball, this one really show's daddy's reverse framing skills.




-W

Originally Posted by starsnuffer

I'm still trying to find good video. I know a pitcher who threw great curves at San Jose State years ago, I'll see if she has video.

I did find a really good video on youtube of how to redneck a curveball, this one really show's daddy's reverse framing skills.




-W

That's hilarious! I have this one dad that catches like that, pulls everything away from the zone when his DD (high schooler) is trying to hit corners, then shakes his head as he holds the glove like 6 inches away from where it crossed the plate. She gets so mad at him and I just laugh.

But kudos on that pitching set-up if that's in their yard!

Glad to hear there is data .... looking forward to it being presented.

Originally Posted by FiveFrameSwing

Is this girl 14?




Curveball .....



Looks to really break ......

.... or does it?

FFS, I would like the line drawn when it leaves the pitcher's hand and tracked all the way to the catcher's glove.