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Aug 2, 2011
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What do you think of this pitch? I have been looking for video of curveballs. Is this a drop curve? Anyone know a video where I can find out more about it? I hear a lot of people talk about how girls who have 5 pitches and they all do the same thing, if anything. Would this be similar to a roll-over drop? This ball really tumbles off the plate. Thanks!
 

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May 12, 2010
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I like it.
Would this be similar to a roll-over drop?
Yes. If she masters the roll over this should be easy to get.
Instead of over the top North South spin, have her
fingers and thumb pointed down @ 6 o'clock position then do same roll over move except rip the hand
sideways. Some say put it in your pocket. Pretty good shot of it in 0:39.
 
Aug 29, 2011
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What do you think of this pitch? I have been looking for video of curveballs. Is this a drop curve? Anyone know a video where I can find out more about it? I hear a lot of people talk about how girls who have 5 pitches and they all do the same thing, if anything. Would this be similar to a roll-over drop? This ball really tumbles off the plate. Thanks!


Styke, that is a roll-over drop! The fingers are angled down instead of pointing toward the 3rd base-line. The thumb comes over the ball first! With a curve-ball, the pinky finger comes first, and the thumb last. If you look at the thumbnail 3rd from left on the bottom at the end of the video, this shows Ernie Parker teaching a student the curve. Here she is showing the finished hand position. On the drop, the thumb would be against the thigh, and the pinky facing the pitcher. If you go to my facebook page, you can see some sequential photos of the roll-over. If you click on each photo there are instructions and sample videos listed.

The angle of the release is changed, and that is all! This pitcher could throw both varieties. This pitch is awesome against LH'ders and not bad against slappers, although some of the break takes place late since the slapper is in the front of the box at contact.

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Jul 26, 2010
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Good movement, but look how it breaks exactly at the angle that the bat is coming over the plate? I'm not trying to knock on the pitcher, but the batter here looks uncommitted to the swing at best (and is stepping out towards third base. This is why she's missing on the outside, good call by whoever is calling the pitches against this batter, but a regular curve ball low in the zone would have worked even better)

-W
 
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Aug 29, 2011
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Good movement, but look how it breaks exactly at the angle that the bat is coming over the plate? I'm not trying to knock on the pitcher, but the batter here looks uncommitted to the swing at best (and is stepping out towards third base. This is why she's missing on the outside, good call by whoever is calling the pitches against this batter, but a regular curve ball low in the zone would have worked even better)-W

I hate to criticize, but you are very correct. I don't believe in pitches that take compromised angles. The pure drop is better, and effective against LH and RH batters, and this pitch is not too good against RH experienced batters because of the bat angle issue; at best, this would be a pitch rapped weakly at 2B or 1B. However, it works really well against exclusively LH batters. The ideal would be to be able to throw a pure drop, and then adjust the wrist angle.

However, if you are going to throw a pure breaking pitch horizontally, you are most correct that a low curve is most universally effective!
 
Aug 2, 2011
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Steve thanks! That was helpful! I am throwing it and I can tell it takes a lot of practice to get the proper release and spin.
 
Jan 4, 2012
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Perfect Circle, where is the "double pump" in this pitch.

tojo...36-38 then from 38-39 in the slow motion....she throwed her hands up over her head and pulled down to waist.#1...once her hands collapses to her waist, she squats her legs to pump up for her launch #2...It is the same style J. Taylor uses. tojo do you like this style....or teach it...didn't see if you made a yea, or nay ???
 
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Jan 27, 2010
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tojo...36-38 then from 38-39 in the slow motion....she throwed her hands up over her head and pulled down to waist.#1...once her hands collapses to her waist, she squats her legs to pump up for her launch #2...It is the same style J. Taylor uses. tojo do you like this style....or teach it...didn't see if you made a yea, or nay ???
The motion you are referring as being a "double pump" is called a "stretch". Cat Osterman does the stretch motion. A "double pump" is what Jenny Finch does in her motion. Both arms go back on the backswing. A "single pump" motion is when only the throwing arm goes back. Jordan Taylor does the stretch,also. I don't insist on any pre-motion movement as long it is comfortable and does not interfere with the mechanics that follow.
 
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