Slingshot changeup

Showing pitch and in practice can be fun, breaks it up a little bit.

Games I am with you, I am just curious what would happen so I would like DD to throw it.

Interested in the adults reactions.

Comp said:

Why would you bother showing it to kids or even try to get them to throw it in a game knowing full well it is illegal?

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You have had to have heard about, and or seen lotz of IP'ers getting away with it...When this happens, you can throw your's, and make the ump say IP...of course you don't do it with anyone on base...Either that or come home crying, and typing pages on here telling us about it

That's why I have DD do the 2Step every practice & warm-up... You trade a 2Step for every replant.

Of course when ump gets back fair control of the game... You can always go back to pitching Legal like you have every since you have been under Honest Adult Supervision.... But the putting in step, skippy, replanting, crowhopping, HBP ILLEGAL pitcher and her desperate coach will still have problems.

Ken B said:

It's a fun pitch. The kids get a kick out of it and I explain it is completely illegal.

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My DD learned about it from another player when we picked up once. They just thought it was fun and spent the whole day practicing it between games.

Comp said:

Its called an ephus pitch and it is illegal in all rules codes I am aware of. The arm cannot continue to rotate after release.

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i wish i had this video to show that retired ump who told me that it was NOT illegal in all his 20 years of umpiring.

FastPitchCat said:

i wish i had this video to show that retired ump who told me that it was NOT illegal in all his 20 years of umpiring.

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I can think of many instances of people doing things for many years but still are not any good at it. A trip to a local golf course or slow pitch field will provide endless examples.

Snotbubbles said:

Mathematics.

Historically extra point success rates are usually above 97% (most of the time in the 99% range) and 2 point conversions are below 48%. So mathematically, it makes more sense to kick the extra point. It will take a few years of statistical compilation before we can see the true affect of moving the kick back to get an idea of what the new success rate percentage will be (currently it's ~95% for 2016). If it is above 96% then it will continue to make sense to kick the extra point.

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I was talking about with the rule change and the extra point conversion rate is currently 93.7% for the 2016 season. So mathematically it makes no sense to kick the extra point unless it gives you the advantage late in the second half. Football coaches in general are bad at picking optimal strategies; this is well documented. Please don't let the facts get in the way of your hot take.

The large point was that coaches at the highest levels are risk averse and tend to be overly cautious. I wouldn't look to them for to be the shining light of innovation and thinking outside the box.

The reason for this is $$$ (in my opinion).

pitching coach showed this to dd just for fun. Would mess with it a little just to have some fun. She has thrown in 5 or 6 times in games, only once for a strike that had blue fooled and called a ball. Have yet to see it called an illegal pitch. Usually throw it late in games with a nice lead just for fun, have yet to see a girl swing at it, they usually stand there wondering what just happened. Anytime dd has a new catcher catch her for the first time she will throw it without telling them just to watch their reaction, usually funnier than batters, nice little ice breaker for them. Just has been fun pitch for dd to help break up the grind of practice