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Aug 21, 2011
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If someone described a screwball they way you just did I would expect an inside fastball that the pitcher and her parents called a screwball, similar to pitchers whose riseball is really a high fastball. How much movement did you get from spin?

I thought it was accepted knowledge that the screwball was an angled pitch, no matter where you stepped.
 

JAD

Feb 20, 2012
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I thought it was accepted knowledge that the screwball was an angled pitch, no matter where you stepped.

A screwball can be a combination of angle AND spin movement, but if there is no spin movement it is just an angled fastball.
 
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sluggers

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A screwball can be a combination of angle AND spin movement, but if there is no spin movement it is just an angled fastball.

The data from the 2011 CWS shows that very few pitchers throw a real screw.

I have a lot of trouble believing that 12U kids are throwing "real" screw balls when very few pitchers at the CWS throw "real" screw balls.
 
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sluggers

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"scrise" is apparently defined as inside and high fastball.

The pitcher steps to her left, changes her circles and throws to the inside of the plate. No change in her release mechanics from the normal IR. No different spin ==> no movement.

Watch the ball flight, not the pitcher. It is an inside high fastball, 12-6 spin.
 
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Jun 19, 2013
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"scrise" is apparently defined as inside and high fastball.

The pitcher steps to her left, changes her circles and throws to the inside of the plate. No change in her release mechanics from the normal IR. No different spin ==> no movement.

Watch the ball flight, not the pitcher. It is an inside high fastball, 12-6 spin.

uhhhh have you had your coffee?
 
Feb 7, 2013
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IME, most screwballs have 1/7 spin (Right-handed pitcher, as seen from the catcher) and the effectiveness of the pitch has more to do with the location (down and in to a right-handed batter) and the angle of the pitch than the actual "movement" created by side spin. Said another way, its very difficult to get true 3-9 sidespin on a screwball to make it move laterally.
 

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