Trying to learn IR - how far do I have to go?

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Jun 7, 2015
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=APrL-ES6WWg

Excuse the poor quality of video and ragged field, but I'm trying to convert so I can better teach my young kids. I went to the local field here at home and as you can see, it's not well kept.Please, be gentle on me! Any tips on where to start? I've been reading and I tried my best not to snap the ball, but to rotate the forearm. It was harder than it sounded!


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JJsqueeze

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Jul 5, 2013
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as my friend Cletis said to his brother on that fateful day......"yer doin it....yer doin it"...

In all seriousness....forget the I/R....how about that drive? I now a certain someone in NY who is going to like how you start things off with the lower half...

The I/R part actually looks good, I wouldn't be surprised if you always pitched like that though, a lot of pitchers have what we call I/R in their motion here but they think they are doing something entirely different. Do you have any video from before you started "trying" to convert.

The telltale signs are the loose bent elbow and the palm facing up/third at about 9 o clock and remaining loaded like this into release, and then at release the forearm rotating towards the body allowing the hand to come from that completely "inside the ball" position to slightly behind the ball just at release. There is still a snappy feel to the release but it is in the elbow and in the feeling of the forearm rotating suddenly (ever play hot hands?- the version where the slapee has the hands on top of the slappers hands?).
 
Jul 10, 2011
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You go, Peach!!! There are way more qualified coaches on their way so I'll leave the instruction to them. I would just like to thank you for putting yourself out there like this in order to help your students. The best coaches always remain "students of the game". You look awesome...keep up the great work!
 
Jun 7, 2015
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Thanks, y'all! I have to admit... After not pitching in three years and gaining about 30 pounds, I was scared to death to put this on the worldwide web! Hahaha! But yes... I have a video of before I tried the IR. I know it's only one rep but you'll get the jist I think. https://vimeo.com/131995824

You can see me shaking my head because I was actually trying to use IR and I couldn't get out of my HE.

As for my drive, I've been reading about this leap and drag thing versus stepping. I looked up leap and drag pitching on Google, clicked on the first video, and tried to recreate it so that if I could do it and if was the best way to date, I could pass it along. My hubby seems to think I've always leapt and drug, but I'm not so sure. Standing at 5'1, though, I had to have one strong drive to compensate for my lack of length. Still think that's why I never broke 55. :(


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JJsqueeze

Dad, Husband....legend
Jul 5, 2013
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yer doing it in the old video too...I think you were a better pitcher than you thought you were. 55 mph for a wee little 5 footer is nothing to sneeze at either.

as for the leap and drag....as usual, the husband is right. The way to tell is whether or not the rear foot is gliding out on the toe before the front foot lands...yours is....

Steppers (like my lovely 5' 9" 12 year old) kind of just turn on that rear foot while landing....don't tell her she is stepping though, she will give you a mean look, I mean icy cold. The kind of look that makes a man lock his bedroom door when he goes to sleep at night.

I looked at your profile...Are you really 45? If so then you are 5X more athletic than this 45 year old and are aging quite gracefully. I just posted a clip of me hitting and after the swing I had to press my medilert bracelet because I am convinced I broke a hip.
 
Jun 7, 2015
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Eh... I wish I could say I was consistent at 55. Lol. I stayed 52-53. I got hammered my freshman year of college. I'm definitely not 45. I'm 23. I don't know how to change it...


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Apr 12, 2015
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Honestly, the easiest way to learn to throw with IR is not to try. If you are trying to IR, your going to end up muscling through the rotation and release phase and totally miss the whip action. The best way to learn it is to just set the stage...ball up at 9:00, adduct the arm into your side, pause the upper arm (turn the big circle into a little circle is the cue we use) and follow through, allowing the arm to do what it does naturally.

Holding a tee ball bat at 9:00, with your palm pointed to the sky, then basically just relaxing your arm and letting the bat swing through will give you a great feel for the motion.
 
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Jun 7, 2015
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Honestly, the easiest way to learn to throw with IR is not to try. If you are trying to IR, your going to end up muscling through the rotation and release phase and totally miss the whip action. The best way to learn it is to just set the stage...ball up at 9:00, adduct the arm into your side, and follow through, allowing the arm to do what it does naturally.

Holding a tee ball bat at 9:00, with your palm pointed to the sky, then basically just relaxing your arm and letting the bat swing through will give you a great feel for the motion.

I actually saw BoardMember's video of that drill. I didn't have a bat on hand so I improvised with the ball. How effective that was I don't know. I couldn't feel much of a difference. Maybe like someone said earlier, I may have done it before without realizing it.


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