I agree with JJ, you've probably thrown with at least some degree of IR for a long time and just didn't know it. Most pitchers who have pitched for any amount of time pick it up naturally and just never realize it. They throw with whip/pull mechanics, then force their arm into a HE finish after release. It's really a common thing.
Trying to learn IR - how far do I have to go?
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Y'all have no idea how much of a relief it is to hear that. I thought I'd been doing it all wrong for years now and teaching mechanics wrong for a while too. Guess I'll have to come up with a better excuse for why I couldn't get more velocity. 
If I could put my finger on it, I might go back and use my other 2.5 years of eligibility.
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You are brave! It almost gave me the courage to post my video of me pitching, but I chickened out
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Do it! It can't be worse than mine! Lol.
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There is something we call "front side resistance." It means simply, "Stop yourself with your left leg. Don't move forward after you release the ball."
This is Whitney Canion. As a junior, Whitney was probably the best pitcher in the NCAA. She was amazing. Notice how far forward she moves after she releases the ball--*NONE*.
All the momentum you created leading up to release is transferred to the ball *IF* you stop yourself. You'll see a couple of MPH increase.
<iframe width="420" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/ZI8_Ls3ZIeA" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
This is Whitney Canion. As a junior, Whitney was probably the best pitcher in the NCAA. She was amazing. Notice how far forward she moves after she releases the ball--*NONE*.
All the momentum you created leading up to release is transferred to the ball *IF* you stop yourself. You'll see a couple of MPH increase.
<iframe width="420" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/ZI8_Ls3ZIeA" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
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So you don't close the hips?
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"Close the hips"...
For newbies pitchers, always tell them, "keep the hips open". I've never seen a newbie pitcher who closed too little. They all close too much. So, tell them to "Stay open". When they get older and better, you drop it.
You aren't a newbie pitcher. So: The hips close about 45 degrees. Look at Whitney's hips carefully. You'll see they go to fully open when her arm is at 12, and then somewhat. Whitney looks like she closes to about 30 degrees. (0 degrees is fully open, 90 degrees is fully closed.)
So, teaching a young kid to "open and then close to 45 degrees" is really too much to handle.
Here is Cat Osterman. Notice how she doesn't move forward after release, but her hips do close.
<iframe width="420" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/7LqYXr98HA8" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
For newbies pitchers, always tell them, "keep the hips open". I've never seen a newbie pitcher who closed too little. They all close too much. So, tell them to "Stay open". When they get older and better, you drop it.
You aren't a newbie pitcher. So: The hips close about 45 degrees. Look at Whitney's hips carefully. You'll see they go to fully open when her arm is at 12, and then somewhat. Whitney looks like she closes to about 30 degrees. (0 degrees is fully open, 90 degrees is fully closed.)
So, teaching a young kid to "open and then close to 45 degrees" is really too much to handle.
Here is Cat Osterman. Notice how she doesn't move forward after release, but her hips do close.
<iframe width="420" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/7LqYXr98HA8" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
FiveFrameSwing
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This is what is referred to as IR on this website.
FFS, you are wrong. You are very, very confusing.
IR can be either (1) rotation of the forearm during release, which is also referred to as pronation or (2) the entire motion from 12 until release, which *includes* pronation of the forearm during release. (I personally prefer to use pronation to refer to rotation of the arm, and IR to refer to the entire motion. You usually have to read the comment in context to understand how the person is using IR.)
Peachy does have some part of an IR pitching motion, however she does not have complete IR because she doesn't pronate the forearm.
Peachy is coming up in the "hello elbow" position. I don't see her doing a "faky" where she pronates the forearm and then finishes in the HE position.
IR can be either (1) rotation of the forearm during release, which is also referred to as pronation or (2) the entire motion from 12 until release, which *includes* pronation of the forearm during release. (I personally prefer to use pronation to refer to rotation of the arm, and IR to refer to the entire motion. You usually have to read the comment in context to understand how the person is using IR.)
Peachy does have some part of an IR pitching motion, however she does not have complete IR because she doesn't pronate the forearm.
Peachy is coming up in the "hello elbow" position. I don't see her doing a "faky" where she pronates the forearm and then finishes in the HE position.
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FiveFrameSwing
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Sluggers, you are wrong. You are very, very confusing.
As an FYI, this here is pronation .....
