Turnover drop?

sluggers · May 24, 2015

Here is a video of my DD throwing a drop...

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/X6lMzskDTps" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

cbullard · May 24, 2015

Sluggers, that's exactly what she's getting. A curvish, droppish, type of pitch.

On the Cat example...isn't her arm coming away from the body?

cbullard · May 24, 2015

Or, I think I was misunderstanding after watching your daughter. I was thinking that you meant locking the wrist to the body

FiveFrameSwing · May 24, 2015

Had a pitcher yesterday warming up that noticed that her FB was dropping and curving. She wanted me to go behind her and watch it. It was revolutionary to her. She was totally surprised that her FB was moving like that. I simply explained the pitch to her and why it was happening. No need for miscellaneous post release hand gyrations. Not saying that the miscellaneous hand gyrations are a killer .... just that what Ken advised above is spot on ... pay attention to the 'result', as the kid I was working with was, as she realized that her "maturing FB" was indeed not simply a "FB".

javasource · May 24, 2015

Any rollover thrown with an upward trajectory like that is not going to drop into the zone where it should. Get her posture forward, C. It will raise the release point... allowing her to "spin down" the flight path. Think of the ball path as a hill you throw down... as opposed to one you throw up. For many that throw this pitch... it's helpful to let their backside come into the pitch a bit more... rather than stay back so far.

sluggers · May 24, 2015

Again, have your DD watch Osterman and watch my DD. She'll get the idea.

No need for miscellaneous post release hand gyrations.

Absolutely clueless.

The hand is torquing over the ball at release. The "post hand gyration" is the natural follow through from the movement of the arm and wrist.

By telling a pitcher to emulate the follow through, the pitcher is able to better mimic the proper mechanics prior and during release.

Dial · May 24, 2015

I look at it this way. "Fastball" is just and adjective to describe speed. If the ball happens to move while moving "fast" then the other adjectives take over like curve, drop, screw,cutter. Even when you watch the MLB games on your computer with their free graphical app I dont even think they use the term "fastball". Now its become 2-seam or 4-seam.

As for the OP get a ball with electrical tape so you and her can see the spin. She needs to realize, like sluggers says, the feel and see what the ball is doing. My daughter throws more of drop curve because she cups her wrist at the bottom before release. She doesnt realize she is doing it. I still cant get her to lead with the pinky

FiveFrameSwing · May 24, 2015

sluggers said:
Here is a video of my DD throwing a drop...

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/X6lMzskDTps" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

This is simply what many refer to as IR related mechanics.

Notice the palm-up orientation. Leads to the elbow leading and resulting whip. She likely has a focus on a tight release (tight as in path). The post release hand gyrations that you showed earlier are not necessary ..... but if you like them, then enjoy them .... just not necessary, and what I find is that many pitchers with this lose a bit of velocity in the process.

FiveFrameSwing · May 24, 2015

sluggers said:
Again, have your DD watch Osterman and watch my DD. She'll get the idea.

Absolutely clueless.

The hand is torquing over the ball at release. The "post hand gyration" is the natural follow through from the movement of the arm and wrist.

By telling a pitcher to emulate the follow through, the pitcher is able to better mimic the proper mechanics prior and during release.

Your intimidation tactics won't work with me Sluggers.

Perhaps consider a different tactic.

sluggers · May 24, 2015

FFS...I do appreciate you getting the GIF of my DD.

But, I simply don't have the time to educate you. Every good pitcher uses IR mechanics on every pitch--curve, rise, drop, screw.

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