I don't have any handy but what I am talking about is on the upswing before going over top, the pitcher has a big bend in her throwing arm. Lacey Waldrop seems to have that issue and I wondered if it is a timing as the upper arm would be at 9 while the lower arm would be at 10. Or 3 and 2. My daughter constantly gets a short arm herself on the frontside and it seems to be a timing issue with her.