No advantage to leaping

Welcome to Discuss Fastpitch

Your FREE Account is waiting to the Best Softball Community on the Web.

Nov 18, 2013
2,258
113
The advantage isn't mechanical. If a kid pitches indoors a lot, the toe gets hurt. So, they learn to lift it up to avoid getting banged the toe banged up.

I haven't found that to be the case up here. Perhaps they're just more used to throwing indoors.
 

JAD

Feb 20, 2012
8,231
38
Georgia
The advantage isn't mechanical. If a kid pitches indoors a lot, the toe gets hurt. So, they learn to lift it up to avoid getting banged the toe banged up.

I don't know about getting hurt, but before my DD got a pair of Ringor trainers with the pitching toe she was ruining a pair of tennis shoes every other month. Maybe the leapers are just trying to save money on shoes!!!
 
Jan 18, 2010
4,280
0
In your face
What's the disadvantage of the step style, vs the leap n drag? The distance. This game is a game of inches, that's why we like those big tall long limb pitchers in softball/baseball. Anything, that we can do to move them closer to the plate, is an advantage. As long as it doesn't sacrifice speed or delivery.

I'm not going to make a fool of myself with a video, but I can assure you, most of us can leap farther with both feet off the ground than dragging a leg behind. The elite are the ones who have the recipe for the proper landing resistance, and have learned to break the rules to their favor.
 
Jul 1, 2013
41
0
I seem to recall that there is a DFP member who lives in Australia. Somebody help me with her name. I would be interested in her opinion. Is leaping allowed in Australia for junior pitchers? Is so, does it give the pitchers a huge advantage? Are Australian pitchers faster than their American counterparts because they have the ability to leap?

The anecdotal evidence is all over the place. JJ's dd gains no speed when she leaps. Riseball's dd gains 2 mph. But nobody can cite any real evidence or study, and i wouldn't think it would be that difficult to collect data if the powes that be wanted to do so. I don't know. My untrained eye tells me that if leaping was such an advantage, international pitchers would be unhittable, but I don't notice a difference. But I'm far from an expert. My dd basically stopped pitching when she was 12 due to a back injury and to say that mechanics aren't my strength would be putting it mildly.

Australia and every nation of the international softball community play under the ISF rules. Leaping and replanting is allowed. In my part of the world most female pitching instructors here still teach to drag the back foot, and most of these instructors teach HE as gospel.
Boys/men jump like crazy.
My DD who is a junior state rep pitcher jumps like crazy and this I have taught her to help getting momentum into the pitch.
The fastest womans pitcher's in Aus are throwing around 65-70mph but they a few.
The fastest men's pitchers are throwing over 85mph.
ISF rules will be the Olympic rules if softball is reintroduced.
 
Jul 1, 2013
41
0
Most of the world class female pitchers in Australia and like I said they are few compared to in the states, actually drag their back feet. I dont believe this is because they are not taking advantage of the leaping rules but because they have all been taught to pitch in the USA.
Kaia Parnaby, justine Smethurst and Ellen Roberts are probably some of the best examples.
In 2007 the rules of pitching changed in the ISF for both male and female so many old school coaches dont teach leaping.
I know of a young lady from here who is on sholarship in the USA who had to make changes to her pitching technique to allow here to pitch for her college.
Stepping, dragging or leaping, the basic mechanics don't change but the timing of the pitch does.
 
May 17, 2012
2,807
113
leaping leaves more kinetic energy that can be transferred to the ball because none has been lost by dragging the foot

Ok but how much more speed are we talking? 10 MPH or .02 MPH. You are just guessing. And the term you are looking for is Ground Force Reaction (GFC) and not kinetic energy.
 

Latest posts

Forum statistics

Threads
42,866
Messages
680,347
Members
21,525
Latest member
Go_Ask_Mom
Top