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she is 15 years old
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Hmm...then maybe that late firming up is hurting her speed. If her arm is already straight when the ground force reaction gets there then the energy transfer will be greatly diminished. I have no reference point for a 15 year old of her not quite Amazonian stature regarding speed but I think with everything tuned up she should be able to get to mid 50s if she is a strong 5"1.
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Yea I have no one to base it against either all the girls I know in her size actually throw slower then her Only girl I know comparable to her is a constant 45mph and there sizes are identical but that girls fastball tops out at 40-41 it is her screw ball that she is constant 45 with. where it is usually my DD's drop that hits 48 and her fastball is in between 43-46 constant My DD has hit 50 4 times and 49 about 15 or 20 times but I do not count them she can not reproduce them enough
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How do you mean awkward ??
I haven’t posted in a long time but I want to bring something to your attention….for you to consider.
You have made progress, her whip is coming along and shorting her stride was a useful, imo.
The pic in the middle is with her longer stride and you can see the difference with the one on the right.
What your dealing with at this point imho…is
1. a young lady that learned push/pull and she (her body) still wants to feel her left side pull and her front throwing shoulder activate…even though its not necessary now.
2. You are also dealing with a young lady that had a long stride and not enough core strength to handle it.
Something I see with young long striders is many will “extend” the spine (flex the pelvis/arch the lowback) and can not get back to a more straight spine/neutral to slightly extended pelvis (stable core). This position of a flexed pelvis and arched low back deactivates a lot of core muscles.
Teach her what pelvic tilt is (flexed, extended, neutral)…laying, standing ect. and teach her what spinal extension is. Teach her what having a straight spine on a more neutral pelvis is when in the release position. I would also have her keep her head more straight so when she feels the core activate…. it is done equally on both sides. And i would continue with the shorter stride till she could accomplish it.
If she can feel that and come out of spinal extension for release with a more neutral pelvis…you and she should notice a significant difference.
Good luck, your doing a good job!
You have made progress, her whip is coming along and shorting her stride was a useful, imo.
The pic in the middle is with her longer stride and you can see the difference with the one on the right.
What your dealing with at this point imho…is
1. a young lady that learned push/pull and she (her body) still wants to feel her left side pull and her front throwing shoulder activate…even though its not necessary now.
2. You are also dealing with a young lady that had a long stride and not enough core strength to handle it.
Something I see with young long striders is many will “extend” the spine (flex the pelvis/arch the lowback) and can not get back to a more straight spine/neutral to slightly extended pelvis (stable core). This position of a flexed pelvis and arched low back deactivates a lot of core muscles.
Teach her what pelvic tilt is (flexed, extended, neutral)…laying, standing ect. and teach her what spinal extension is. Teach her what having a straight spine on a more neutral pelvis is when in the release position. I would also have her keep her head more straight so when she feels the core activate…. it is done equally on both sides. And i would continue with the shorter stride till she could accomplish it.
If she can feel that and come out of spinal extension for release with a more neutral pelvis…you and she should notice a significant difference.
Good luck, your doing a good job!
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Thank you bobby
couple of questions ??
1- what do you mean "young lady that learned push/pull" and "she still wants to feel her left side pull" and "her Front Throwing
shoulder activate"
2 - By flex spline do you mean try to reach out with stride foot to far??
the thing I have always noticed with my DD and can not find a way to get her to achieve it is her drive foot does not actually drive till her stride foot is almost all the way extended its like she uses drive foot to maintain balance until the stride foot is almost all the way out ?? if you understand that. She has a really decent whip her arm accelerates and blurs out from about 10 pm but at release it almost completely disappears when seen in full speed. But I am trying to crack this walnut with her stride and it has proven to be a very hard one to crack.
Its just a description of what I see her body doing. Not significant if she can get a better release posture.
Not necessarily reaching out to far. With a shortened stride... she still has an "extended" (arched backward spine) as the picture shows. It doesn't look as bad in the shortened stride pic as the longer stride (slightly different pic angle though). Compared to Scarborough it is still significantly arched.
Many young striders ....arch the low back as they open (thats normal)...some too much for where there at in their developement...then they go into their release posture with the pelvis flexed and spine extended. Not what I want for a good strong front side posture. It goes back to Java's thread about core strength/pelvic hip stability/posture. BM also recommended having her push back on the ground. This will help activate the muscles that can keep the pelvis more neutral...but she will have to push back earlier than she does in this latest clip imo.
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the thing I have always noticed with my DD and can not find a way to get her to achieve it is her drive foot does not actually drive till her stride foot is almost all the way extended its like she uses drive foot to maintain balance until the stride foot is almost all the way out ?? if you understand that. She has a really decent whip her arm accelerates and blurs out from about 10 pm but at release it almost completely disappears when seen in full speed. But I am trying to crack this walnut with her stride and it has proven to be a very hard one to crack.
ON the drive issue...i would start with...exactly as java or some else recommended. Push off earlier while the arm is swing is going back...even have her start try to start pushing off when the ball passes her hip on the back swing. She should be able to get that with a little practice. If she isn't getting that...take the ball out of her hand till she gets it. I did that alot with my dd while working on striding/push off.
Hopefully that helps.
When I have come across students whose glove arm swims utilizing the wall drill really helps. Show your daughter a video of how the left arms should perform then have slowly at first do her windup but make sure her left arms close to the wall. As she gets comfortable increase the speed to where she going full speed as if she pitching to a batter. This may take some time but highly effective. All the students who I have worked with have fixed the swimming arm with this drill.
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Thank you guys and Bobby through reading your post I see that you may not have commented earlier you seem to have Paid quite a bit of attention and interest in My DD's progress and I deeply appreciate that and for all the useful help.
I am currently trying to get her to shorten the stride which you noticed so she can learn the proper feel then be able to maintain it when she can lengthen it again. The one thing I am combatting with shortening it is she seems to want to convert to stepping when I do it. I try to offer the opinion its not the length its how quickly you get there but with the shorter stride she seems to instantly slow her whole body down and almost more step most of the time. It seems to be a challenge
I am currently trying to get her to shorten the stride which you noticed so she can learn the proper feel then be able to maintain it when she can lengthen it again. The one thing I am combatting with shortening it is she seems to want to convert to stepping when I do it. I try to offer the opinion its not the length its how quickly you get there but with the shorter stride she seems to instantly slow her whole body down and almost more step most of the time. It seems to be a challenge
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What does her shoulder have against her ear? They should be nicer to each other.
She's cutting herself short, look like she's trying to force something that someone read about on the internet and told her she should be doing.
Put a net in front of her and have her throw into the net and grab it with her pitching hand as she throws each pitch. That trick came from Mike White, he knows stuff.
-W
She's cutting herself short, look like she's trying to force something that someone read about on the internet and told her she should be doing.
Put a net in front of her and have her throw into the net and grab it with her pitching hand as she throws each pitch. That trick came from Mike White, he knows stuff.
-W
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