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Nov 7, 2014
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The only reason anyone would teach a child to shorten there stride due to the pitch is because he doesn't know how to convey the proper way to get the proper release angle ... shortening the stride would force the pitcher to transfer weight to the front foot earlier...
which would probably also cause them to fall forward with the upper torso ... which would adjust the release angle albeit in the wrong way .... just simply through the release phase get the feeling of lifting the rear hip level or if need be slightly higher then the front hip ... I believe if she can not accomplish this then her stride is to long or faulty in the first place similar to trying to reach out with the stride foot to get stride distance that way (My DD does it)
 
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That's just it. How can you tell the difference if you increase the distance?

ok it is to determine a late break not really lack of it.

have your DD warm up with you say at 35 feet throwing her drop ball I will bet you notice the ball does not drop. But you know she has a great drop ball. The problem is it is breaking 8 feet behind you after you caught it. Think of it that way. She might be throwing it harder causing the late break. Her previous release angle was tuned into her by her own adjustments for the speed she threw to get the desired results but now that she throws harder she still has same release angle causing a late break on the pitch. In my experience which is none the harder they throw the drop the more the release angle will need to be adjusted.

which would tell you need a release angle adjustment.
 
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I have learned here, to think in terms of axis instead of angles for dropball's. :cool:

I believe axis would more for the left or right movement of the drop not really the up or down portion.

meaning a 90 degree axis to the ground would produce the 12-6 spin straight forward drop but if the axis is tilted slightly it would produce the 1-7 or 2-8 spin still a drop but it would also break slightly in to a RHB

:)

but the tilt in your spline/torso would change the angle in relation to the ground the ball is released on drops you would want a more parallel to the ground release angle meaning more centered torso over Body mass or slightly forward torso of body mass. It lets gravity to work more efficiently :)

of course this is all more indicative of the peel drop or variations of it , The rollover works on slightly different principals. But I do not care for the rollover and it is a great pitch but I would not teach it to a girl learning or any girl below 16. It and the screw are the most dangerous pitches to learn in my opinion But how ever I do not know everything or claim to :)
 
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Jan 4, 2012
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I believe axis would more for the left or right movement of the drop not really the up or down portion.

meaning a 90 degree axis to the ground would produce the 12-6 spin straight forward drop but if the axis is tilted slightly it would produce the 1-7 or 2-8 spin still a drop but it would also break slightly in to a RHB

:)

but the tilt in your spline/torso would change the angle in relation to the ground the ball is released on drops you would want a more parallel to the ground release angle meaning more centered torso over Body mass or slightly forward torso of body mass. It lets gravity to work more efficiently :)

of course this is all more indicative of the peel drop or variations of it , The rollover works on slightly different principals. But I do not care for the rollover and it is a great pitch but I would not teach it to a girl learning or any girl below 16. It and the screw are the most dangerous pitches to learn in my opinion But how ever I do not know everything or claim to :)

FlusH & Drop
 
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is it me or is she holding on to the ball to long meaning letting go out by her front leg ??

Thats been said alot. I guess it has context with this thread where talk of shortening stride is...altering release. This practice theme was the same as always.... brush (FlucH) them off the plate first,then drop it inside, keep every thing 12/6....meanin they got to hit it in the middle. DD loves to scoop the grounders, then fire it underhand to 1st. She was getting ready to play some BIG GIRLS... :cool: They were all mostly under it in the game poop-ups to second... :cool:
 
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meaning a 90 degree axis to the ground would produce the 12-6 spin straight forward drop but if the axis is tilted slightly it would produce the 1-7 or 2-8 spin still a drop but it would also break slightly in to a RHB

I'm not seeing anything but 12/6 on both...I see the first breaking @ 5' out from plate, and left 2+ feet. Second one off the table @ about 5' out from plate too w/same 2+feet drop. :cool:
 
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I am not really referring to hand position related to the ground I am related to fingers movement on the release. To me the fingers create that axis on release. Your fingers and how they release from the ball create the axis. I am struggling with my dd on this very thing right now. Think of BM saying release mid snap. Throw it straight but spin it right. That happens by the fingers changing the axis of the ball movement on release from the inner rotation and the fingers actions to get 1-7 or 2-8

:)
 

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