Dont lean too much on PC

MNDad · Dec 18, 2014

Top_Notch said:
Now, I know pitching may not be for everyone, in which case it's money down the drain when they call it quit after 6 months.

Welcome to the board! As you said later in the paragraph the money for lessons was well spent. I've just heard similiar statements alluding to wasting money on lessons if won't transfer into scholarships.

If you have a good instructor you’re not just paying to learn how to pitch. You’ll find that pretty much any kid that puts the time in can be successful at 8U/10U. As they get older, most move on to other positions, but the work ethic and preciseness they learned while pitching sticks with them.

marriard · Dec 18, 2014

Gronknation said:
Thats what dont get . As you get a little older and more experienced why would you think that you have developed some bad habit every week or two weeks or even month. If you are doing things right just keep going at it on your own. Feel like a high percentage of lessons are glorified workouts that the parents are willing to pay for..

Ok, by your logic pitching coaches in college and MLB are pointless... And these are full time positions.

I once saw Greg Maddux say he didn't understand really HOW to pitch until he was 26 years old - an age most softball pitchers will never get to as an active player. Cat Osterman says she learns more and more about pitching every year.

It is not all about mechanics.

That isn't to say there isn't many coaches who are just glorified workouts for pay (and that isn't necessary a bad thing either on occasion), I am just saying that a good pitching coach can provide way more than just mechanics learning and tweaks.

Gronknation · Dec 18, 2014

Sounds like you are paying a psychiatrist not a pitching coach. What is sad are all the comments about girls rather working with PCs than their own parents. Not to say me and my DD didnt have a few tiffs but I think it really made for a stronger bond. To me it is all about keeping up with the Jones'. She might get better than my DD unless I get more lessons. It can be done on your own . Believe me.

JJsqueeze · Dec 18, 2014

Gronknation said:
Sounds like you are paying a psychiatrist not a pitching coach. What is sad are all the comments about girls rather working with PCs than their own parents. Not to say me and my DD didnt have a few tiffs but I think it really made for a stronger bond. To me it is all about keeping up with the Jones'. She might get better than my DD unless I get more lessons. It can be done on your own . Believe me.

can we just stop the charade? You lasted a couple of weeks this time. Congrats, now go away.

MNDad · Dec 18, 2014

Gronknation said:
Sounds like you are paying a psychiatrist not a pitching coach. What is sad are all the comments about girls rather working with PCs than their own parents. Not to say me and my DD didnt have a few tiffs but I think it really made for a stronger bond. To me it is all about keeping up with the Jones'. She might get better than my DD unless I get more lessons. It can be done on your own . Believe me.

We’ve all seen it done on your own. They’re the kids looking to the bleachers before every pitch to see what their Dad is calling. They’re the kids who can’t play in the outfield, because long throws hurt their arm. They need to bat in the top 1/3 of the lineup or it damages their psyche. If they’re not THE #1 pitcher they find a new team every year.

It’s the Dad who sits in the stands and belittles all the girls. He blames the catcher for making his DD miss the strike zone. It’s the fielders fault for not getting to the ball, It’s the teams fault for not scoring enough runs. For every success story there’s a hundred like I’ve just described.

riseball · Dec 18, 2014

MNDad said:
We’ve all seen it done on your own. They’re the kids looking to the bleachers before every pitch to see what their Dad is calling. They’re the kids who can’t play in the outfield, because long throws hurt their arm. They need to bat in the top 1/3 of the lineup or it damages their psyche. If they’re not THE #1 pitcher they find a new team every year.

It’s the Dad who sits in the stands and belittles all the girls. He blames the catcher for making his DD miss the strike zone. It’s the fielders fault for not getting to the ball, It’s the teams fault for not scoring enough runs. For every success story there’s a hundred like I’ve just described.

My experience with my DD was quite different. And from what I have seen going on close to 30 years what you describe is the exception and not the norm. Sounds like you are carrying a bias from a bad experience with some out of control parents.

MNDad · Dec 18, 2014

riseball said:
My experience with my DD was quite different. And from what I have seen going on close to 30 years what you describe is the exception and not the norm. Sounds like you are carrying a bias from a bad experience with some out of control parents.

I may have over dramatized it just a bit

And, yes, I'm biased, but its from several experiences.

SoGASoftball · Dec 18, 2014

I prefer subject matter experts in my business, so taking DD to a great pitching coach is the only way I'll feel comfortable since I've seen her excel by using one. I have learned so much from DFP, but my preference for a pitching coach comes from the fact that she responds much better. No need for every week, but this would vary from pitcher to pitcher.

Classof2020 · Dec 19, 2014

JJsqueeze said:
can we just stop the charade? You lasted a couple of weeks this time. Congrats, now go away.

This is what I thought too right from the beginning. But you can't be sure. Sooner or later the true colors come shining through tough.

Gronknation · Dec 19, 2014

Who are you guys? The softball police.

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