BM, I've never played a game of baseball in my life. Only played Fastpitch. I was playing in men's leagues since I was 12. Imagine putting a 12 year old girl into a grown woman's league... most shiver to think of putting a 12 year old in a 16U tournament! in the course of my learning to pitch, I've tried everything known to man. Every style. every pitch. Every grip. etc. I was not born with the knowledge of how to do this, I spent my life learning. In doing this, I've come to the realization that most of these trick pitches are not exactly legit. And I personally find it a shame that so many are led to believe in such things. It doesn't help when ESPN people call the inside pitches "screwballs" etc. I don't blame the pitcher or even the parents. They listen to someone who "pitched in college" and that is enough to make people think what they are saying is gospel. And it's horrifying for someone like me to come in and tell them I see no difference in any of the spins among their 8 pitches... then I demonstrate 3. Rise, drop and change. I can vary all 3 with speed and location, that's it. I'm far from the world's best pitcher or world's best coach. But so much of what is being taught out there is nonsense that it's painful and virtually none of it does what people claim it does. When people actually know what they are looking for in pitches (spins, etc.) they can see through the BS a lot better. But throwing high pitches is no more a riseball than rolling a ball makes it a drop. Yet this is what gets taught and as someone who's done this his whole life, it bothers me. Sorry for the rant.