DD "B" is no longer a pitcher.

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Jun 18, 2012
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Utah
After several months of being frustrated with DD's lack of commitment to work on her pitching, yesterday I told her it was time for her to tell her HS coach that she was no longer going to be a pitcher. You see, I don't believe in her giving her coaches a false hope that she's going to be one of their pitchers, when it ain't gonna happen. Further, I didn't want her to steal pitching time from my other two dedicated pitchers who actually yearn to be pitchers. It was a very tough thing for me to tell her, but if it ain't in her heart to be a pitcher, it ain't there!

I'm a bit angered by it because it has a lot to do with what goes on with kids during their teenage years. Many lack an appreciation for the potential they have, but more than that, they often do the opposite of what their parents (or dad) sees as their potential. It's a rebellion of sorts. Oh well, years from now she will regret it, as my older daughter does now.

Part of the problem what that mommy/wife was never on board, so trying to get DD to practice pitching was not only a battle with DD but I also had mommy enabling DD. Yeah, that makes me quite angry. Oh well, the choices these kids make.

My focus will now be on "K" and mainly "M". I see "M" as a girl who will eventually really shine. The key will be getting the HS coaches, who are as back-woods as they get when it comes to recognizing good pitching mechanics, to recognize her more. "M" just going to have to take this by the horns and win the position outright a year or two down the road.

The dad is experiencing a lot of emotions right now--sad, bitter, angry, unappreciated, etc. Oh well, dads aren't suppose to have feelings.
 
Jun 18, 2012
3,183
48
Utah
Yeah, OILF, I knew you'd be the first person to respond. Such a surprise! So predictable! You couldn't wait to spit in my face, because I've been nipping at your heals of late. Got any other brilliant advice?
 
Oct 10, 2011
1,572
38
Pacific Northwest
after several months of being frustrated with dd's lack of commitment to work on her pitching, yesterday i told her it was time for her to tell her hs coach that she was no longer going to be a pitcher. You see, i don't believe in her giving her coaches a false hope that she's going to be one of their pitchers, when it ain't gonna happen. Further, i didn't want her to steal pitching time from my other two dedicated pitchers who actually yearn to be pitchers. It was a very tough thing for me to tell her, but if it ain't in her heart to be a pitcher, it ain't there!

I'm a bit angered by it because it has a lot to do with what goes on with kids during their teenage years. Many lack an appreciation for the potential they have, but more than that, they often do the opposite of what their parents (or dad) sees as their potential. It's a rebellion of sorts. Oh well, years from now she will regret it, as my older daughter does now.

Part of the problem what that mommy/wife was never on board, so trying to get dd to practice pitching was not only a battle with dd but i also had mommy enabling dd. Yeah, that makes me quite angry. Oh well, the choices these kids make.

My focus will now be on "k" and mainly "m". I see "m" as a girl who will eventually really shine. The key will be getting the hs coaches, who are as back-woods as they get when it comes to recognizing good pitching mechanics, to recognize her more. "m" just going to have to take this by the horns and win the position outright a year or two down the road.

The dad is experiencing a lot of emotions right now--sad, bitter, angry, unappreciated, etc. Oh well, dads aren't suppose to have feelings.

wow, are you me????
 
May 7, 2008
8,501
48
Tucson
Doug, are you married to the girl's mom? It doesn't sound like it.

I had to take my DD to a different pitching coach and I had to shut up. We drove from Flagstaff to Prescott every Sunday. 90 minutes, one way. But, you know what? The drive is what she remembers. Go figure.

If you don't say it enough, tell DD b, that you love her. This time together goes all too fast.
 
Jun 24, 2013
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DD will get going when she wants to.

She is #3 or #4 on her league team, #1 by far on her school team with the same pitchers.

DW does not want to change teams, DD and I are mixed. DW wears the pants in our family.
 
Jun 18, 2012
3,183
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Utah
Doug, are you married to the girl's mom? It doesn't sound like it.

I am.

I had to take my DD to a different pitching coach and I had to shut up. We drove from Flagstaff to Prescott every Sunday. 90 minutes, one way. But, you know what? The drive is what she remembers. Go figure.

Oh, given she's varsity left fielder, and given the importance of her social life has grown exponentially, the interest in pitching just isn't there. Having athletic potential as a pitcher is far from sufficient. She simply started too late (less than two years ago). I firmly believe had she started younger, it would have been more a part of her. Oh well.
 
Jun 18, 2012
3,183
48
Utah
DD will get going when she wants to.

She is #3 or #4 on her league team, #1 by far on her school team with the same pitchers.

DW does not want to change teams, DD and I are mixed. DW wears the pants in our family.

My wife doesn't think she wears the pants in our family, but she definitely does. I just get tired of her complete lack of support in this regard. It's like she never feels the need to motivate (in fact, does just the opposite behind the scenes), and that is what has been the problem here. No, it's not just my wife's fault, but I wish the three of us had been one unit in this regard. Anyone with a pitcher daughter knows it takes a great deal of dedication, not just from the girl, but also from the two parents.

Yeah, things such as these would be an area of weakness throughout our marriage. I guess we never drew enough lines in the sand early on in our marriage. I suppose I just backed down too easily all these years. I think what bothers me most is the enormous time commitment it has been on behalf of my DD. There simply aren't enough people willing to do this stuff. Anyone who has coached knows it is a vastly under-appreciated thing. It just hits you a lot harder when it ain't appreciated or valued by those closest to you. Of course, the out in left field person would be the type to instill a lack of appreciation in her players for any time their parents had spent helping them.
 
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Jun 27, 2011
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North Carolina
I'm a bit angered by it because it has a lot to do with what goes on with kids during their teenage years. Many lack an appreciation for the potential they have, but more than that, they often do the opposite of what their parents (or dad) sees as their potential. It's a rebellion of sorts. Oh well, years from now she will regret it, as my older daughter does now.

Potential to do what? Be good at something that she doesn't enjoy?

Sometimes rebellion is a good thing. She has the potential to be good at more than pitching a softball. Just keep loving her and trust she'll figure it out, IMO.
 
Jun 27, 2011
5,089
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North Carolina
My wife doesn't think she wears the pants in our family, but she definitely does. I just get tired of her complete lack of support in this regard. It's like she never feels the need to motivate (in fact, does just the opposite behind the scenes), and that is what has been the problem here. No, it's not just my wife's fault, but I wish the three of us had been one unit in this regard. Anyone with a pitcher daughter knows it takes a great deal of dedication, not just from the girl, but also from the two parents.

Yeah, things such as these would be an area of weakness throughout our marriage. I guess we never drew enough lines in the sand early on in our marriage. I suppose I just backed down too easily all these years. I think what bothers me most is the enormous time commitment it has been on behalf of my DD. There simply aren't enough people willing to do this stuff. Anyone who has coached knows it is a vastly under-appreciated thing. It just hits you a lot harder when it ain't appreciated or valued by those closest to you. Of course, the out in left field person would be the type to instill a lack of appreciation in her players for any time their parents had spent helping them.

DR - I totally respect your feelings on this, but the more I read, the more I realize we're on a different page. I don't feel the need to motivate my daughter. Yes, I do try to motivate her, but I don't feel the NEED to do it. It needs to come from her. I've spent an ungodly amount of time helping my daughter become a better player, but the idea that she needs to appreciate that doesn't really enter my mind because I love her and it's just what I do, help her with softball. I enjoy it more than she does, so I feel more of a need to appreciate her for giving me these memories, not the other way around. Maybe I'm misunderstanding what's happening here, but I don't see how your daughter and wife are so out of line.
 

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