finally got a rev fire

riseball · Apr 9, 2014

Rocketech1 said:
any thoughts?

If the spin on the flip change is similar to the spin axis of another pitch it would be desirable to have a similar spin rate. We always want the CU to look like something else. I have found some pitchers with considerable spin on their flip change and by converting them to a back door flip ended up with a really sweet change up that when thrown by a RHP would break down and away from a RHB. Sounds like you are already getting some movement so why not enhance it.

Words your will never hear me say to a pitcher - "You are spinning the ball way too fast."

Greenmonsters · Apr 9, 2014

IMO, any pitch that isn't straight is harder to hit. As spin is required to produce movement, if you can use the Revfire to help maximize spin, specifically spin that produces effective movement, then sure there is a good use for it.

Rocketech1 · Apr 9, 2014

Thanks, I just never hear anyone talk about generating lots of spin on the change-up but can definitely see an advantage to increasing the spin, but not the speed of the pitch.

Might have to bust open the piggy bank to purchase the Revfire. I told DD she has to pay for 1/3 of it and she was receptive to that.

WaSpeed02 · Apr 9, 2014

JJsqueeze said:
I had the same question on the speed. I assume it takes into account the difference in release point to actual plate to plate distance, but I am getting 47-51 MPH readings on the REVFIRE and 42-46 MPH readings on my Bushnell. It says to set up 3 feet behind the plate and I am doing that but it still seems like it is reading too fast. I always suspected my particular Bushnell read a little slow but not this much. Being a pitchers dad, I think the best thing to do is to add the speeds together and say she pitches about 90 MPH.

I noticed the same thing with my DD. She was hitting 52-54 consistently with the RevFire and then 2 weeks later she was clocked with a Bushnell from behind the backstop at a tournament hitting 48-51.

JJsqueeze · Apr 9, 2014

This is one fun toy. We just played with spins for two days straight. She averages between 15-17 and has an occasional 19 rps pitch for her fastball/dropball, so there is plenty of room for improvement. Her little sister is throwing 14-16 so I am guessing that is some sort of minimum for a pitch released with decent mechanics. fun stuff.

Madsdad · Apr 10, 2014

Rocketech1,

Not only does spin on the change up and movement, the spin adds to overall deception of the pitch. Maybe not so much with the younger crowd but once hitters start looking, more is better

RAZORWEASEL · Apr 10, 2014

One of the best "tools" we have ever purchased. It made a huge difference in the learning how to throw the drop/curve and rise. DD has hit 50mph and 30rps with a rise one time...little achievements...took her out for ice cream after that one.

riseball · Apr 10, 2014

RAZORWEASEL said:
One of the best "tools" we have ever purchased. It made a huge difference in the learning how to throw the drop/curve and rise. DD has hit 50mph and 30rps with a rise one time...little achievements...took her out for ice cream after that one.

Some will say that 50mph is not fast enough for a riseball. I say throw it in a bunt situation, grab some popcorn, and watch the show.

WaSpeed02 · Apr 10, 2014

RAZORWEASEL said:
One of the best "tools" we have ever purchased. It made a huge difference in the learning how to throw the drop/curve and rise. DD has hit 50mph and 30rps with a rise one time...little achievements...took her out for ice cream after that one.

Those numbers don't sound right to me. If she's only pitching 50 mph, then 20 rps would be doing really well on the spin rate.

Coach JV · Apr 11, 2014

DD has hit 50mph and 30rps with a rise one time.

I agree with WASPEED. My DD has a 24-25 rps and throws in the low 60's
her rise has 22-23 rps at 60-61 mph. Time to recalibrate?

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