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I would love to hear opinions on which technique you guys prefer?
Which is easier to master?
Which seems to be more effective?
Thanks
Which is easier to master?
Which seems to be more effective?
Thanks
Curve Ball... Palm Up or Palm Down?
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- Feb 17, 2011
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Palm up. Gives my dd way more movement. This is also more deceptive as it looks from a delivery standpoint like her other pitches. The rollover drop and drop curve show themselves to the batter by altering the delivery way more than the palm up curve and peel drop.
Palm down will produce a drop curve which a rh pitcher should not throw to a rh batter as it stays in the plane of the bat longer. Against a lh batter the down and in of the drop curve is tough to hit though.
Palm down will produce a drop curve which a rh pitcher should not throw to a rh batter as it stays in the plane of the bat longer. Against a lh batter the down and in of the drop curve is tough to hit though.
I've said that there is no such thing as a natural movement pitch, but recently came across a couple kids who have natural crop rotation. The axis is perfect, but I haven't had a chance to see how much the ball is moving. I'm hoping to get some slo-mo video of their release and see how they release. What I'm getting at is that a drop curve (if that's what you want,) is palm down/in. End of opinion...
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- Dec 7, 2011
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Palm Up - for sure.
Palm down is more of a drop curve and mostly is a righty pitcher pitching to a righty batter which is "on-plane" which is easier hit. (of coarse throw a lefty into that mix and I change my tune)
The best palm-up curve that I have seen was LSU's Mack and her off-speed palm-up curve. I LOVED seeing that pitch.
DD & I are going to work on that one for her new HS waste pitch.
Palm down is more of a drop curve and mostly is a righty pitcher pitching to a righty batter which is "on-plane" which is easier hit. (of coarse throw a lefty into that mix and I change my tune)
The best palm-up curve that I have seen was LSU's Mack and her off-speed palm-up curve. I LOVED seeing that pitch.
DD & I are going to work on that one for her new HS waste pitch.
JJsqueeze
Dad, Husband....legend
I can't visualize the release for a curveball with a palm up that will give it the right spin. DDs PC told me that when the time comes, this is the style of curve with the most movement, just like ya'll are saying so I am sure it is right, but my feeble mind cannot grasp it...picture please...
I like to think of it similar to a rise ball. But instead of the fingers going under the ball to generate back spin (6-12), the fingers come around the outside of the ball generating a side spin (3-9). That is if I have my clock notation correct.
JJsqueeze
Dad, Husband....legend
I am missing something that probably has to do with my understanding of the perspective you are noting here. Let's take the catcher's view, and a RPH. In this case a 6 to 12 spin is a riseball, and a 3 to 9 spin is a screwball, I can totally see both of these with the palm up/sideways, it is getting that 9 to 3 curveball spin that I don't see, seems like the wrist would need to be soooo flexed to get the palm to disengage and let the fingers take over.
- Jun 18, 2010
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Yeah I guess my clock is backwards. I think of 3 o'clock as 3rd base and 9 o'clock as 1st base on a RHP. Maybe I need a mirror.
JJsqueeze
Dad, Husband....legend
ahhhhh....see it now....it is palm up but with the forearm also more up during delivery so it comes more across the body, this relieves the wrist from having to be so bent. totally see it now.
