Pitching speeds from TPM 2012 Showcase

**Coachmom** · 08-29-2012, 12:25 PM

Originally Posted by FiveFrameSwing

Thought I saw a few pitches at 74mph.

My DD's pitching coach attends the WCWS every year. She clocked Keilani Ricketts with the pocket Radar at 74 because she also doubted the televised speed.. She texted me a photo of the result because I did not believe it either. She said Rickets was consistent at 70-71 but would occasionally hit 72-74.

**Perfect Circle** · 08-29-2012, 12:33 PM

For you speedsters, did you get any readings on the Queen of Speed....CT?

**starsnuffer** · 08-29-2012, 04:38 PM

Originally Posted by sluggers

So, 25% of the kids can throw 60+MPH. Out of that 25%, how many do you think have a real breaking pitch? Probably, half.

Did you watch college softball last year? The ability to actually throw a pitch that really breaks does not seem to be a prerequisite to pitching for a D1 school. The ability to convince a coach that your curveball spins fast is the name of the game. Results do not matter much in the whack-a-mole world of college softball.

-W

**EP Dad** · 08-29-2012, 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by starsnuffer

Did you watch college softball last year? The ability to actually throw a pitch that really breaks does not seem to be a prerequisite to pitching for a D1 school. The ability to convince a coach that your curveball spins fast is the name of the game. Results do not matter much in the whack-a-mole world of college softball.

-W

I'm confused.

**FiveFrameSwing** · 08-29-2012, 10:22 PM

Originally Posted by Coachmom

My DD's pitching coach attends the WCWS every year. She clocked Keilani Ricketts with the pocket Radar at 74 because she also doubted the televised speed.. She texted me a photo of the result because I did not believe it either. She said Rickets was consistent at 70-71 but would occasionally hit 72-74.

Thank you Coachmom. I believed the radar readings on the other pitchers during the WCWS also.

**sluggers** · 08-29-2012, 10:32 PM

EP Dad--Starsnuffer is perhaps prone to hyperbole (something I would never do

), but...

During the CWS, the college players were scoring runs like crazy. During the the World Softball Championship, the same kids couldn't score a run against a pitcher who is throwing slower than the girls at CWS. A reasonable person should ask, "Why?"

The answer is that most of the pitchers at the CWS have marginal breaking pitches. So, they get hammered by good hitters. When those same hitters face a pitcher with a real breaking pitch, suddenly they can't hit it.

Daddies routinely brag here and at the ball park that their kid has four breaking pitches when in reality they don't have any. Daddies say, "She knows these pitches, but she can't throw them consistently." <---That means, "She can't throw a breaking pitch." If a pitcher can't get a pitch to break 90% of the time, then it is the same as not having one. It is worthless.

But, Daddies are more into having a bunch of poor breaking pitches than one good breaking pitch.

**EP Dad** · 08-30-2012, 09:19 AM

I get it now. Thanks.

**chinamigarden** · 08-30-2012, 10:32 AM

Originally Posted by CoachFP

Ok, this is a pretty good sample of college bound pitchers. Which furthers my opinion that the 73 mph speeds shown on ESPN for the WCWS was full of baloney.

Except the girls who throw 68+ probably don't have to attend a showcase to get their name and info out

**FiveFrameSwing** · 08-30-2012, 11:16 AM

Originally Posted by chinamigarden

Except the girls who throw 68+ probably don't have to attend a showcase to get their name and info out

Yes ... and many of the ladies already committed to a college don't participate in these events.

**Greenmonsters** · 08-30-2012, 12:03 PM

Originally Posted by FiveFrameSwing

Yes ... and many of the ladies already committed to a college don't participate in these events.

That's because they threw 68+ at last year's event!

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