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    First of all, thanks for those who have already replied privately before I had posting privileges. (I just joined)
    I have a great deal to learn from the responses I have received privately.
    I really like the idea of posting some videos and then getting feedback and posting more, etc. etc., etc. What a great idea! Thanks in advance for anyone and everyone who is willing to assist me here.

    Here's the background. 10 U player will be 11 in July. Just started to really express an interest in learning and getting better at the end of last season. She is dedicated to learrn, and I am dedicated to teach her. We have a lot to learn. I will be evaluting all advice and trying real hard. Here is the video sequence, first a link to the first game of the season which she had a hit but clearly shows hand drop and an arm swing.

    https://vimeo.com/41380776

    This was weeks ago. I have identified the hand drop which led me to this forum. We practiced hitting with a tee aligned with the back foot to keep the hands from dropping. Sure enough they dropped several times, before she adjusted. Then we hit off of a tee in the garage. yesterday was a rainy mess. So here are the rest of the videos from yesterday. I am willing to take all advice and post new videos for anyone who responds and is willing to take part in this. Thanks a million!


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    Looks like she hits hard.
    She does spin, or squish the bug, with her lower half. "Walking off her heel" or pushing with her big toe is a better way. There is a lot of posts on here describing that.
    Her hands. I would start first with getting her hands and bat closer to her body. She should have close to a 90 degree bend in her front arm until the point she "releases" or throws her barrel. Dobson at LSU said they will (and I have done this) put an exercise elastic band, about a foot long, pretty stretchy so it doesn't snap hard, one end around thumb of left hand so it is held in palm, then hold bat. Put other end around elbow that is bend at 90 degrees. The band should snap off there elbow at contact or close to it. If the band snaps off early it is direct feedback that she her hand moves back or away from her body too far.

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    Redhotcoach, Thanks for the quick response. Two questions, regarding the squish the bug...Yes, she was taught this early on. Best way to break it? Should I be searching for "The move" ? This is what I read on another post. Also, re: " She should have close to a 90 degree bend in her front arm until the point she "releases" or throws her barrel." Can you supply a visual for that? Still trying to visualize all of this stuff.

    Lookin forward to all responses. Thanks

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    SORRY! I have a new mac that I can't figure out how to copy video. I have to take the kids to school, I will see if I can figure it out later. Look at the model swings thread. I always start at the end and work toward the beginning. Look at the hand path and front elbow of a lot of the girls. Of course it will vary with pitch location.
    The lower half walk off the heel...notice the good hitters have little to no weight on their back foot at impact. Bug squashers will spin on the back foot, heel will actually go backwards, and they keep their weight on the back foot. Hold a bat, stick or something similar on catcher side of her back foot when she swings. Her heel should not spin into the the stick, but move a bit away from it.

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    stickpile39,
    Just a dad like you and also learning.If you haven't read yet check out this post-Thoughts on daughters swing-started by dukie.Will show you what bug squishing is/looks like and how to fix it.Also check out (if you haven't) Megan1-Tee started by Immortal1.Has a lot of good info in the post.Don't be afraid to ask questions.Good luck.

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    thanks all, and btw she is 4'5" 65lbs. She is swinging a -12 31/19 oz. TPS. Do you all think this is a little too heavy? I can see from what I've read it seems to be borderline.

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    The move is an excellent place to start the teaching of using the lower effectively. Once you get that down you can move onto coiling forward. Just what my DD & I have done if interested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stickpile39 View Post
    First of all, thanks for those who have already replied privately before I had posting privileges. (I just joined)
    I have a great deal to learn from the responses I have received privately.
    I really like the idea of posting some videos and then getting feedback and posting more, etc. etc., etc. What a great idea! Thanks in advance for anyone and everyone who is willing to assist me here.

    Here's the background. 10 U player will be 11 in July. Just started to really express an interest in learning and getting better at the end of last season. She is dedicated to learrn, and I am dedicated to teach her. We have a lot to learn. I will be evaluting all advice and trying real hard. Here is the video sequence, first a link to the first game of the season which she had a hit but clearly shows hand drop and an arm swing.

    https://vimeo.com/41380776

    This was weeks ago. I have identified the hand drop which led me to this forum. We practiced hitting with a tee aligned with the back foot to keep the hands from dropping. Sure enough they dropped several times, before she adjusted. Then we hit off of a tee in the garage. yesterday was a rainy mess. So here are the rest of the videos from yesterday. I am willing to take all advice and post new videos for anyone who responds and is willing to take part in this. Thanks a million!

    Each instructor has their own ideas on where to start and what is important, and I'll share mine.

    In order to consistently hit the ball, IMO, the most important factor is the head. The head must not move once you launch the bat at the ball. The only way to keep the head still while creating maximum force through shift and rotation is to use the legs correctly.

    She bends her front knee when she swings and this causes her head to move forward and down. The legs are also the main power source, for hitting the ball hard. Squishing the bug does not impart the maximum potential force available to shift and turn the torso.

    Below is my "standard" advice photo with a narrative on it, and below that is an excellent example of how the lower body should move. I tell my students to learn to properly move the "magic spot" which is shown in the .gif

    How she holds her hands and arms in her stance, is irrelevant, but they must move to a proper launch position before she moves the bat at the ball. The "universal launch point" is a common term. It looks like box 2 in the photo.





    Note how long the girl above keeps her heel down. She is pushing her back hip to turn the the magic spot toward the pitcher, she is not simply twisting her back leg on the ball of her foot.
    Last edited by jbooth; 05-23-2012 at 06:39 PM.

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