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May 24, 2013
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DJ - I don't think ANYONE is advocating that spinning on the toe is correct.

What happens at the back foot is a RESULT of doing other things correctly. A "push with the rear foot" cue puts the center of the action in the wrong place....IMO.
 
Jul 16, 2013
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DJ - I don't think ANYONE is advocating that spinning on the toe is correct.

What happens at the back foot is a RESULT of doing other things correctly. A "push with the rear foot" cue puts the center of the action in the wrong place....IMO.

I certainly do not advocate spinning on the toe/foot. But I also don't place much emphasis on the toe/foot. My focus is higher anatomically speaking. The term "result" seems correct to me. It is quite possible to have the "look" in the foot and get there correctly. But it is also possible to have the same "look" and get there incorrectly. It's the "getting there " that I am concerned about.
 
Dec 4, 2013
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Well guess I'm in the minority but I'll stay that way, if you think you can coil, engaging your hip properly, release and uncoil and none of it has to do with the pressures being exerted onto your foot properly and that you can spin on your toe and it will all work out fine because you are doing everything else right...good luck. Maybe it is just a cue I'm using that you don't think is needed because you are using another cue that automatically negates having to use the instep push cue and that is fine because different hitters learn differently but hopefully we would all agree that we should not be teaching a spin/squish cue.

For me it stops at coil. I don't think about "releasing" or "uncoil". I keep pulling back. Tightening the torsion spring......Launch....

IMO as soon as you start thinking about releasing the coil or uncoiling you are in trouble, you lost the SNF....
 

rdbass

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Jun 5, 2010
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Not here.
Some have said Bonds was close to a spinner/bug squishier.
Bonds4.gif

Yee is spinner here:
15q8zs1.gif

Both were great hitters. So, spinning rear foot doesn't prove it's bad in all hitters.
That's why I don't place emphasis on the rear foot/toe.
Here is where the 'emphasis' should be 'placed':
PujolsAxisSpring.gif
 
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Dec 4, 2013
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Some have said Bonds was close to a spinner/bug squishier.
Bonds4.gif

Yee is spinner here:
15q8zs1.gif

That's why I don't place emphasis on the rear foot/toe.
Here is where the 'emphasis' should be 'placed':
PujolsAxisSpring.gif

Good Post.
Three people with a different "looking" rear foot. All have torsion spring. All have their weight back at launch. All have deep barrel turn. All shift and swing....
 
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Cannonball

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I see that you are trying to get the thread back on track. So, you think that moving the tee back will change this hitters swing and take away the spinning, top down swing.

RD, I think that I am not smart enough to know how a hitter's swing looks if they are hitting off a tee when not in an optimum position for that tee. LOL Get that tee far enough out in front and the hitter will look like someone made them look silly with a change up.
 
Dec 11, 2010
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RD, I think that I am not smart enough to know how a hitter's swing looks if they are hitting off a tee when not in an optimum position for that tee. LOL Get that tee far enough out in front and the hitter will look like someone made them look silly with a change up.

Not only too far out front, it looks to me like she is getting stretched out to hit an outside changeup too far out front. Using a tee wrong is why so many people get the idea that telework isn't beneficial IMHO.

Saw a coach Jack up a whole team of good hitters with putting a tee way out front "to work on extension" last winter. That's pretty much what it looked like. And it caused all kinds of other problems. (Along with setting the Jugs machine on 70 mph at 30' "to improve bat speed". Long winter.)

Google fast pitch batters box for dimensions and use $4 worth of white tape to set up a batters box. The river is only 6" wide, the plate is only 17", how far away is she? Not very technical but might prevent problems before they even start.
 

Cannonball

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Feb 25, 2009
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Where is the ideal location to place the tee relative to the plate if just working on basic mechanics?
Take a look at Eric's Post and the video of Stone's foot at the beginning of the video. (Go to 1:13 and look at where Stone's front foot is.)

This has been helpful for a few people...


Stone's video is taken exactly from the side. It appears that the video posted in the OP has the camera in forward and slightly angled back taking the video of the swing. So, if one projected where that video would be viewed if exactly from the side, that tee then would be out if front of where that front foot lands. For the various videos I've shared of my dd long ago, we typically had that tee somewhere in the toe - middle of the front foot. Even that might have been a little to far out in front.
 
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