SnF Drill

Spartans21 · Jan 12, 2015

Reading the thread about crankermos daughter got me thinking. At one point he said he started with "the move" and then incorporated SnF. Is stretch and fire just a drill or also a phrase to summarize some components of the high level swing?

A few questions regarding the SnF drill.... Is it a consensus that this is a worthwhile drill? If so do you feel it carries over to the regular swing? I feel like the hitter is in such a different position than their regular approach I question if it translates over. Pros of the drill? Looking forward to hearing some thoughts...

Eric F · Jan 12, 2015

If done right (as I understand it), the SnF drill highlights the stretch around the rear hip and upper leg, which should also carry over to a full swing with the rear leg IR'ing against backside resistance. The starting position for the drill is not just about standing facing the pitcher. The hitter's weight should be over the right leg (for a RH hitter), rather than being balanced on both legs, and the center of the action is in the hip and hand pivot point.

If I recall, RHC uses a 45-degree SnF drill with his hitters a lot.

On a side note, people who believe the swing is not one-legged will have an issue with this.

Spartans21 · Jan 12, 2015

Eric F said:
If done right (as I understand it), the SnF drill highlights the stretch around the rear hip and upper leg, which should also carry over to a full swing with the rear leg IR'ing against backside resistance. The starting position for the drill is not just about standing facing the pitcher. The hitter's weight should be over the right leg (for a RH hitter), rather than being balanced on both legs, and the center of the action is in the hip and hand pivot point.

If I recall, RHC uses a 45-degree SnF drill with his hitters a lot.

On a side note, people who believe the swing is not one-legged will have an issue with this.

I have a pretty good description of the drill printed out, not sure where I found it but I have a pretty good idea how it should look. To me the 45 degree seems like it would translate into a standard swing more so then feet pointing towards the pitcher. I feel a great deal of coil when performing either variation of the drill but still not sure where I stand on the 1 or 2-legged debate...

4 girl's dad · Jan 12, 2015

Isn't this a 45 SNF drill?

I know this isn't really but with where her feet are when she swings, it is pretty close.

redhotcoach · Jan 12, 2015

rdbass said:
More like this:

Then work towards this:

The austrialian girl looks like a push. The Ragin Cajun take…I don't think she had any intention of swinging, they do that about every pitch….she is just emphasizing swinging from behind and around the corner. Like Cranker said they do the step out drill for.
P.s. To have a corner, you have to be one legged.

Spartans21 · Jan 13, 2015

redhotcoach said:
The austrialian girl looks like a push. The Ragin Cajun take…I don't think she had any intention of swinging, they do that about every pitch….she is just emphasizing swinging from behind and around the corner. Like Cranker said they do the step out drill for.
P.s. To have a corner, you have to be one legged.

RHC I think the term "1 legged hitting" just doesn't sit right for me because the other leg is also used in some capacity. In your opinion what is the role of the front leg? Provide resistance and balance?

Buttermaker · Jan 13, 2015

The conversation is more about is it rear leg hitting or core hitting. There is no argument from either side that weight does not flow from leg to leg - so unless you only have one leg - you are using both.

The disagreement is where the swing energy funnels to - is it up and down the rear leg and continues up that side of the body or does it flow from the core to both legs and both sides of the body (anterior and posterior as well as left and right).

It is not about having both feet on the ground with each leg balance 50/50.

Resistance ultimately drives the swing - where is this resistance generated and where does it flow?

redhotcoach · Jan 13, 2015

Spartan, if you can get on bbd I discussed a bunch about on the thread is 2 better than 1. The first couple pages have info on it before it goes downhill. Sorry to pass it to that, but I just need a vacation from posting.

redhotcoach · Jan 13, 2015

redhotcoach said:
Spartan, if you can get on bbd I discussed a bunch about on the thread is 2 better than 1. The first couple pages have info on it before it goes downhill. Sorry to pass it to that, but I just need a vacation from posting.

I will say Buttermaker gave a better description above than most did that argued on the bbd post. So if your looking for both sides, maybe he can help.

FP26 · Jan 13, 2015

redhotcoach said:
I will say Buttermaker gave a better description above than most did that argued on the bbd post. So if your looking for both sides, maybe he can help.

I agree. This was my primary purpose in creating the thread on BBD. Buttermaker did a good job of summarizing the thread in his post above.

If you are looking for more info, I would suggest skimming through the posts on that BBD thread made by RHC and mudvnine. They each offered some very good input.

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