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....you have the one albert almost fell down in batting practice?
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The coil pressure went down to the foot. The foot lost its grip before it came back up
Anyone see it different
I have said it before you need an anchor point

I think the release of the coil is lower back, inside of back leg, butt muscles and it is helped along by the big toe of the rear foot.
When the pressure came down to his foot it got lost before it went back up

Just the way I see it.



SL
 
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OK - I have no knowledge whatsoever as to how the body moves but its true that muscles in the lower back get activated...but my statement is full of errors....

Yep, full of errors.

Do you disagree that the hips and rear leg resist when the lower back twists away from the pitcher? Or do you think that the hips and rear leg should twist away as well....

Debating bio-mechanics with you is useless. You simply don't have the knowledge to understand what I say. I've explained it many times. Presented facts, but you don't believe it because you don't understand.

Yes, I totally disagree that the hips and rear leg resist. That is total nonsense. If anything is "resisting" (which is a poor term), it is the upper torso, the rib cage. The muscles in the rear lower back are holding the upper torso in place, resisting the force coming from the back leg that is turning the hips and forcing the upper torso to move. After some resistance the rear core muscles relax and the ones in the front, (that have been stretched), contract and pull the upper torso back in line with the hips.

And now since you cannot really refute anything I have posted in this comment but you don't agree with me I have to provide more details for you....yeah - I don't think so....you need to refute what I have said with something more then your previous efforts (meaning every swing I have seen from you isn't even close to anything that could be considered above average)

I just refuted everything. And, my swing is irrelevant. I'm pointing out the bio-mechanics of every MLB swing.
 
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SO....the muscles on the lower back on each side....one set holds the shoulders from turning...one set turns the shoulders...what "rotates the pelvis?"

AND AS ALWAYS IN THE "HIGH LEVEL SWING" not the science of the tee ball swing.

You're as clueless as MTS.

The LEGS rotate the pelvis. Core muscles accelerate the upper torso. I could point out each muscle, but what's the point? Explaining it to someone who has zero understanding of anatomy and bio-mechanics, is pretty much a waste of time.

The statements you make about how the body moves are about as close to correct as saying that turning the steering wheel of a car makes it accelerate, and stepping on the brake makes it turn.

I'm talking about MLB swings. I always am.
 
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Welcome back jbooth,
If you are up for it can you go back and continue our discussion on the rear leg? We left off here

http://www.discussfastpitch.com/softball-hitting-technical/12372-rear-leg-12.html#post146206

You can read forward in that thread where I asked some questions of Wellphyt. He couldn't/wouldn't answer so I am hoping you can help me out.
http://www.discussfastpitch.com/softball-hitting-technical/12372-rear-leg-18.html#post147748

Cheers,
NoonTime

Quite frankly, no. I'm tired of explaining it. It isn't that complicated. I've stated it many times, in many different ways, to try to get you to understand, and you still doubt it. Wellphyt explained it well. I think he's given up trying to educate you as well.

You keep analyzing based upon what you believe you feel, and what you see, without having an understanding of how and what moves the bones. If you understood the muscle connections and the direction that they pull on the bones, you would be much better off, but since you don't, you fail to comprehend what I say to you. It is very frustrating for me. I believe that you honestly want to understand, so I tell you how it works, and then you say you don't believe me. What else can I do? I give you facts and you want more.
 
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Look... I posed an experiment, you responded with comments that it was abduction and adduciton. I went with that and am asking some follow up based on your answer. This has nothing to do with "explaining it" whatever you think that is.

I am asking you (the expert) specific questions about a movement that you said was happening. Is it really that hard to address the questions that are asked instead of making it about something else?
 
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It doesn't happen by using the hips or the rear foot move....

It happens from abduction and external rotation of the leg. I've said it many times. You can deny it from a point of ignorance, all you wish. Maybe someday, you'll understand it.

Every strength coach, physical therapist, bio-mechanist, and MD in the world knows that abduction of the femur when standing, moves the torso, but you don't believe it. IMO, that makes you look kind of foolish. Abduction is initiated by contraction of muscles that connect the pelvic bone to the femur.
 

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