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She says to push hands and that's she does in this demo. Is that what you want to do in a swing?

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Oct 10, 2011
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It looks to me like a Mendoza video I saw where the load is just shifting the weight on the back leg in a lineal fashion.
 
Jan 24, 2011
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I was asking rhetorically - not directed at you.

Understood. But , a lot of dad's/coaches come to this site to learn about what they should be looking for in a swing. They don't know if this is what they want or not , so a clear opinion would most likely be helpful. Anyway , I see a lot of instruction like this in the video (and the Mendoza video that was referenced above). Although it doesn't necessarily promote the "high level" mechanics , would it help a lot of fastpitch players to be relatively successful at whatever level they play?
 

Big Dave

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I think it's a good concept, BUT, I might change it just a bit. The way it's set up, it clicks with weight shift - but you can shift your weight and still have crappy knee drive/hip drive/leg push, etc. Also, if your foot isn't centered on the pivot point you may get a good/bad click that isn't true. If it would click from the force going backwards from the rear leg drive, I think it would give a more natural reading from leg drive. Still, it wouldn't be a 100% feedback on mechanics either. I would rather spend $8 and build my own balance board out of wood to teach weight shift.
 
Jan 24, 2011
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I think it's a good concept, BUT, I might change it just a bit. The way it's set up, it clicks with weight shift - but you can shift your weight and still have crappy knee drive/hip drive/leg push, etc. Also, if your foot isn't centered on the pivot point you may get a good/bad click that isn't true. If it would click from the force going backwards from the rear leg drive, I think it would give a more natural reading from leg drive. Still, it wouldn't be a 100% feedback on mechanics either. I would rather spend $8 and build my own balance board out of wood to teach weight shift.


Not looking for a review on the product. Talking more about the hitting instruction
 
I think the big thing really missing is the coil and tilt during stride, although I have seen this method instructed numerous times. Basically everything is loaded, coiled and tilted during the initial negative move/load then during the stride everything is simply held back then released as the hips come forward. While I don't think it is optimal it seems to work. One thing you will notice on MLB players that do this is as hard as they try to simply hold you can always see them reach back for that little extra tilt usually with a little pinch of the lower half before coming forward they just can't help themselves.

p.s. after looking closely at her video you can tell she does exactly what I was talking about check out the super slo mo and the end her tow toe is at 2:18 then even though her hips leak forward they coil slightly same with the back elbow and hands they reach back slightly before releasing.

I have also seen the load and coil taught first then hold and tilt as you stride then release
 
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Jan 24, 2011
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I think the big thing really missing is the coil and tilt during stride, although I have seen this method instructed numerous times. Basically everything is loaded, coiled and tilted during the initial negative move/load then during the stride everything is simply held back then released as the hips come forward. While I don't think it is optimal it seems to work. One thing you will notice on MLB players that do this is as hard as they try to simply hold you can always see them reach back for that little extra tilt usually with a little pinch of the lower half before coming forward they just can't help themselves.


Like I said , I know it isn't MLB worthy , but can this type of instruction be effective for the average player to be successful?
 

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