MTS, I have taught her to get her hips started before her hands trying to create separation. Am I missing something in the sequence here? I see what you are saying and I agree that her front shoulder turning too early is causing her lead arm to straighten out too early. How do you start the hips first without the front shoulder going?
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When you teach separation it can sometimes end up a separation between lower and upper but the hands get left behind.....to combat this we will tell our players that the hands go with the back foot....meaning as soon as the back heel starts leaving the ground the hands throw the barrel....we speak nothing of the shoulders....
This usually gets the hands throwing the barrel right behind the hips....where the hips can then grab the hands because they are ready to go....
This usually gets the hands throwing the barrel right behind the hips....where the hips can then grab the hands because they are ready to go....
Good explanation. I will try and explain it to her that way. I showed her the video and explained the shoulder tilt. We will see what we can do.
MTS, I have literally watched thousands of swings in the past 17 years, and I never connected when the back heel lifts off the ground the hands start to throw. I went and looked at slow motion GIFs of about 15 hitters to confirm this. Another good cue. Thanks!
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Just an in and out here, cause I am tired of debating for a while anyway. I will say this describes what I believe and do. That way everyone else can say that it is different and we don't argue if it is right or wrong. This is how I believe you get the appearance of hips before hands...separation.
Stand up and get in a narrowish batting stance. Have a bat or imaginary bat in your hands at your rear shoulder. Now for exaggeration to feel the actions put nearly all your weight on your rear leg. Plant that rear foot into the floor so it doesn't move. Now just thinking about your rear knee, turn it forward as far as you can. Let your body and torso turn with it. Your knee goes forward a little bit, then down a little. Do it a few times.
Ok, shake it out, and get back into your narrowish knees under shoulder stance (for the experiment). We are going to to the knee turn forward action again. This time though start slowly loading your scap, pull back the bow, now start turning your knee forward. As your knee turns forward resist, slightly pull, your loaded back from turning forward. As you turn your knee forward and resist your hands and back from going forward, you should get separation between your rear hip area and your hands. You will feel stretch up your rear side. You feel your rear side pulling as your knee turns. Your side wants to pull into a scrunch. Your rear side wants to pull down and forward tilting your shoulders.
RDB can you post the "stickman" from bbd? I am on my iphone and can't retrieve it.
Ok,
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