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    I would have to be happy with where she is hitting. What advantage does the pull side give you if she is hitting well to the opposite field?

    Some video would be good.

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    IACoach,
    The hitting net is marked with (2) two horizontal lines one line at 51 inches high and another line at 39 inches high, as measured from the floor. The hitting net is also marked with one vertical line down the middle. Paint the 51 inch and 39 inch lines black and paint the middle of the two line red also paint the vertical line black. The Tee is setup to represent a down the middle pitch and is positioned about to 2 to 3 inches forward of Home plate. Tee is set up 4 ½ feet from the net, and 29 ½ inches high. With this setup the 51 inches horizontal line on the net represents a 26 degree angle from the top of the tee, while the 39 inch line represents a 10 degree angle from the top of the tee. If the ball is hit at the 39 inch line, it would make the ball at 86 feet which is second base for softball, the ball would be about 8 to 10 feet high and at the 51 inch line possible out of the park. Provided the middle of the ball is hit with about a 8 to 10 degree up swing. Always line up off the back corner of home plate the length of a bat. We lay the bat down on the back corner of home plate with the sweet spot on the plate. We stand /set up to hit at the end of the handle of the lay downed bat. ( not tee *see picture of schutt Multi position Tee) as a reference point so we are consistent when determining where the ball hit’s the net when doing Tee work. Difficult to establish bat control without having a place to set up that would make hitting a ball off the tee in a fixed position repeatable in my opinion. When done correctly and when hitting up the middle the ball should hit in the zone and be close to the vertical line.These are from H.Carrier(hitter) and straightleg.If you want more PM.I didn't want to highjack post.

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    I'm not hitting expert, nor do I play one on TV. But I can tell you that my dd had the bad habit of opening her hips way to early and everything went to the opposite field, if she pulled anything it was a weak grounder now and then.

    It took 2 years of work to get her to keep her hips from firing too soon, but this past year she put it all together and while she didn't become a pull hitter, she pulled plenty of inside pitches while still being able to take the outside pitch to left (LH hitter). She wound up with a lot more extra base hits in the gaps and over the OFs heads.

    So I guess I am suggesting you take a look at her hips. Are they open too soon.

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    I've been thinking, why is this not a timing issue? I know it's also on soft toss.When a hitter keeps hitting to the opposited field? Could the batters front foot be stepping toward the opposite field when swinging? When batter is in the box in her stance, is the front foot in front of the back foot.Kind of closing off the back side.Also like chinamigarden said take a look at the hips,more so the bellybutton where is/are they pointed.My DD has a bad habit of no matter where the ball is hit her hips are pointed to lf(rt bat).She over rotates,which on a ball pitched to the outside is sliced to right.I see the ball spin towards the right side when it hits the ground.Just thinking out load.

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    Some info found while doing some reading-- Hitters that have a long draggy swing hit to the oppo field.
    Hands to the ball hitters, hit to the oppo field.
    Tilt and turn hitters that pull off the ball, spin the ball to the oppo field.Some things to look for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rdbass View Post
    Some info found while doing some reading-- Hitters that have a long draggy swing hit to the oppo field.
    Hands to the ball hitters, hit to the oppo field.
    Tilt and turn hitters that pull off the ball, spin the ball to the oppo field.Some things to look for.
    Good mechanics on an outside pitch will result in a ball driven to the opposite field whereas poor mechanics leads to the ball being sliced oppo. If not intentionally to advance a runner, inside or middle pitches hit oppo usually indicate a timing or sequence issue IMO.
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    Ever hear of Joe Mauer? He's made an ok living off spraying the ball and hitting to the opposite field. Of course, that doesn't answer the question of why she used to pull balls and now cannot. Changed her stance? Changed her stride? Not seeing the ball as well or as quickly out of pitchers hand? Changed bats/weight of bat, so it has started to drag through hitting zone? Not rotating hips and/or back foot as quickly as she used to? Not bringing hands to ball as quickly, or at all? Not snapping bat through hitting zone? Bat head coming out too quickly, which is causing the bat to drag through hitting zone, as opposed to snapping through hitting zone? Do you have video of her when she was pulling balls? Then new video of her now? That would probably be your biggest asset to figuring it out.

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    Only recent video I have is one I posted on here a few weeks ago. When I can get someone to record I will record a session. Can't tell much from this in the cage.

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    @ redhotcoach The other day I took video of my DD and was able to watch it frame by frame. What an eye opener, and I am surprised no one has mentioned this as a possible cause for always hitting oppo. Bat Drag. My DD has it bad, and the more I researched it the more I realize that it explains quite a bit. A bunch of hard hit doubles and a few triples to right, a lot of foul balls to the right and a lot of pounding the ball into the ground as well as quite a few swinging misses.

    It also proves that I can't see what is really going on while watching live.


    I don't know if this effects your DD, but frame by frame video might help identify a lot.
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    The more you (or someone else) question what you know the more you learn.

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