Typical Youtube throwing demonstration with a focus on an 'L' .......
07_Misc: about halfway through he talks about flailing the arm behind the torso or making a big long swooping circle with the throwing arm behind the torso. As he's narrating he gives an example of the throwing hand going behind the head as something not to do.Originally Posted by FiveFrameSwing
Wellphyt, let me know at what point in Hodge's video that he warns about the throwing hand moving directionally towards the back of the head.
Do take note of the throwing angle here ....
IMO this is not the same behind the head motion that Tewks is teaching.
Ok, now I find this interesting as it incorporates the main movements that Hodge stresses. I might give this a try with a slight modification. I prefer the arms have a bend in the elbow. Notice how the front thigh rolls over as the front foot lands. The rollover of the front thigh is what triggers the throwing arm into the "L" position.
When the kids are taught to go right to the "L" position at hand break, there is nothing to trigger when the front thigh rolls over. The kids are out of sync. This girl is in sync because she keeps her throwing arm forearm level to the ground until her front thigh to rolls over.
Thanks for posting this
I've been trying to help my daughter with her throwing. Yes I probably screwed it up with help from others by segmenting her/backward chaining her early on with L as a stop off point. What she really does in live game throws is to tend to reach her arm back early and straight (not so much an L) like the girl above.
I think "synch" is part of the issue in fixing the throw, and I'm fine with thigh rolling over as the point when things synch. When I try it, it works. Not to speak for him but in my understanding, Tewks would probably call the synch point when the front--to-back orientation changes, which I think is probably about the same point in time as thigh roll-over.
The thing of value I took from Tewks, demonstrated in isolation in the seated throws demo the girl did in his partner Austin's wrist flip video, was how to use the change in upper body orientation and ball drop behind the head to help take slack out of the arm and create a whip rather than a push or even a hurl that happens beside the thrower rather than behind. I think when I throw I drop my forearm behind my head. Seems like a good, natural move. I don't flail my arm behind me or make a big sweeping motion, which I agree would be bad.
My two cents on reconciling some of these concepts...
Last edited by RichK; 02-23-2012 at 03:34 PM.
He spoke of flailing with respect to getting the throwing arm elongated and potentially locked up.
He never performs a normal speed throw ... however, in multiple examples of his slow-motion controlled throws, he seems to have a mental breakdown ... because he temporarily forgets about the 'L' and performs what is being described here ... he doesn't do it in every controlled slow-motion throw-like example, but it does it frequently enough.
IMO, if you approach this from an 'under the hood' perspective, then you'll find it to be pretty much what Tewks described.
Last edited by FiveFrameSwing; 02-28-2012 at 11:12 AM.
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