recruiting/verbal question

Welcome to Discuss Fastpitch

Your FREE Account is waiting to the Best Softball Community on the Web.

Apr 13, 2011
114
0
So my friend's dd (really) is getting wooed by a D1 coach. She will be a sophomore. Can someone please explain the finer points of timing a verbal commitment? Specifically, when exactly does a D1 school make a specific scholarship offer in writing? Before a girl verbals? Same time? Only after her Junior year? It seems like a catch-22 as far as who can say and do and commit to what. Thanks!
 
Apr 13, 2011
114
0
Thanks. So until senior year none of the financial terms are agreed upon? Or are they discussed and agreed upon by handshake (and usually adhered to) but not set down in writing until senior year?
 
Last edited:

JAD

Feb 20, 2012
8,231
38
Georgia
So my friend's dd (really) is getting wooed by a D1 coach. She will be a sophomore. Can someone please explain the finer points of timing a verbal commitment? Specifically, when exactly does a D1 school make a specific scholarship offer in writing? Before a girl verbals? Same time? Only after her Junior year? It seems like a catch-22 as far as who can say and do and commit to what. Thanks!

A player can "verbal" at any time, but it is non-binding until she signs a NLI her senior year. I would also be VERY surprised if any school would make your friends DD an offer in writing - it is typically a conversation or a power point presentation. If they gave her something in writing and later reneged on the deal, anything they provided could be grounds for a lawsuit. It is essentially a "handshake agreement" so I would advise your friends to do their homework and only verbal to a college coach with high integrity.
 
Apr 13, 2011
114
0
Thanks JAD. So at the time a girl verbals, if it is before her senior year, financial terms are usually discussed but not binding. I assume there are countless stories about girls who were promised full rides when they verballed as 9th graders and then at signing time were offered something less?
 

JAD

Feb 20, 2012
8,231
38
Georgia
Thanks JAD. So at the time a girl verbals, if it is before her senior year, financial terms are usually discussed but not binding. I assume there are countless stories about girls who were promised full rides when they verballed as 9th graders and then at signing time were offered something less?

Verbaling 9th graders is relatively new trend, so stories of last minute "modifications" to offers are just now starting to trickle out. When an offer is reduced or pulled, it is rarely discussed in open forums because the college coach does not want negative publicity, and the player is scrambling to find a new school and does not want to be labeled a "problem recruit". If you look at goldfastpitch you will see that some schools have 9 incoming freshman and only 2 seniors on their rosters, so it will be interesting to see how that plays out....
 
Mar 26, 2013
1,934
0
... It is essentially a "handshake agreement" so I would advise your friends to do their homework and only verbal to a college coach with high integrity.
Just want to emphasize verbals are with the coach, not the school. If the coach leaves the school to take another position, they may offer verbals to go with them (e.g. Wallace when Myers went from ASU to Auburn). Their replacement usually decides the fate of the original verbal - accept, decline or renegotiate.
 
Oct 18, 2009
603
18
Verbals are with coach. Not school. If the coach leaves... any financial agreement can go also. In my limited experience I've seen the new coach honor those seniors who might be about to sign NLI (summer before NLI). But if its a younger commit, the coach may want to evaluate before keeping or renegotiating the offer.

Younger players who commit would have usually been offered some sort of financial offer verbally. Nothing is in writing and I'm guessing most work out as coaches don't want to have a reputation for not honoring what they agreed to. Once the word gets out that they don't honor what they initially promised I'm sure it makes it harder for them to recruit.
 

Latest posts

Members online

Forum statistics

Threads
42,865
Messages
680,328
Members
21,523
Latest member
Brkou812
Top