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Yes ................
And for the record my favorite stat IS the K/BB
Yes ................
And for the record my favorite stat IS the K/BB
My answer was not perfect. However I thought the OP was asking for the quickest and easiest way to measure how effective a pitcher is in the simplest form.
If Sally pitches to 20 batters and only 2 of them reach base safely. The OBP for her outing would be .100....
Suzie pitches to 20 batters and 10 of them reach safely. Suzie's OBP is a lousy .500
Easy way to get "effectiveness" in its simplest form.
Of coursed one can make a judgment based on only 1 pitch in 1 game, but one needs access to all the numbers available to make an “informed” judgment.
JAD,
Are those numbers you “believe” are true, or have you actually checked them?
I’m not saying they aren’t good numbers, just wondering where you got them.
Remember I’m a baseball guy and don’t see much SB.
There aren’t any BB pitchers who can hit what I consider a “spot” with all their pitches more than 70% at best during a game. Being the SB pitchers are a lot closer and don’t have things affecting a BB pitcher like having to pitch from the stretch, perhaps they’re a lot more accurate.
While strike percentage only indicates how accurate a pitcher is, a good HS BB starting pitcher over a season will be lucky to get over 65%. What do SB pitcher get to?
65% (+ or - 5%) seems to be the sweet spot for an effective softball pitcher. Much less than this and it will indicate a pitcher who doesn't have command of the strike zone and much more than this and she is probably getting hit too much. Of course there are outliers that can be very effective outside this range but on average 65% (including called strikes, swing and misses, fouls and hits), all things being equal, is a good measure of effectiveness. Note: my reference is analyzing GameChanger stats from 8U - 12U and is by no means scientific. It also includes pitchers in rec, rec all-stars, tournament teams, and travel ball teams.
Effective? this is a great subject. I still use overall ERA, however I really look at IP and Hits given up. This Fall new pitcher for us; 20 IP, 48 Hits... that isn't an effective pitcher in my mind.
Interesting. Ya know, a lot of folks believe that a very high strike percentage means the pitcher is getting hit too much, but I haven’t seen that at all in BB. In fact, in my experience its quite the opposite.
The attachment shows the results of our team’s 239 games. As the report says, it only includes games where the strike percentage was 70 or more, the pitcher was the starter, and got the decision. If you look closely, for the vast majority the WHIPS are pretty darn low, and the vast majority of decisions are wins.
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Of course that leaves out a whole lot of games, but I think in general seems to prove my point.