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Ken Krause

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Yes, with iScore you can separate games by tournament. They call it "League," so you just have to set up the tournaments as different leagues. I used that feature a lot this summer to track how we did in individual tournaments as well as overall. With this, you can also sub-group the tournaments, so if you're doing ASA and USSSA, for example, you can combine the stats for ASA-only by selecting only those tournaments.

The iPad app I've mentioned is Extra Innings Mobile Instructor. A good basic video analysis app, although it's limited by the quality of the video the iPad shoots.
 

Ken Krause

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If I haven't mentioned it before, and if it hasn't changed since earlier in the year, one thing that's kind of a pain with iScore is making corrections. Let's say in the fourth inning your scorekeeper scores an at bat as an error, but you decide it should be a hit. You can't just go to that inning and make the change as far as I know. You have to undo everything that happened after that play in order to make the change, then re-enter the info afterwards. Obviously the earlier in the game the problem is the more of a pain it is. I wish they would change that feature to make it easier to change.
 

Coach-n-Dad

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I've been using iScore for a couple of years and like it. Corrections can be made in the middle of a game by going to pitch by pitch and correcting the play/substitution/etc.. Fans LOVE the graphics when watching a game from home (we are a travel team that is out of town a lot). I can track different tournament stats by setting up leagues, as many as necessary. There is a 1 time $10 purchase cost for the app and $20 per year can get a team website. I have tried the website and is very useful for coaches to access very detailed stats but IMO not worth the money; I can email stats to the coaches if they want them. There are no other charges that I am aware of

I am trying GameChanger right now and through the HS season. I am told that corrections can be made just like iScore. I don't like the fans graphics when watching a game online, but the developers have promised that they will be releasing a much better fan experience before the next season. I can NOT track tournament stats seperately, only League/Non League/Exhibition/Post Season. The app is free and gives 3 people (Scorekeeper/2 coaches?) access to the full team website. Fans can watch play by play online for no charge but not pitch by pitch. For an additional $10 PER FAN, PER SEASON (this seems too high), fans have access to some very cool options, including watching pitch by pitch online! Best of all IMO is the ability for a paying fan to be texted or emailed when a specific player makes a play (name mentioned in game, offensively or defensively), This is very cool for parents that can't be at a game and can't watch the entire game due to work, etc...

So...

Both apps have advantages and disadvantages.

Overall Cost - GameChanger wins for the basic user - iScore wins for a travel team with parents that watch from home.

User Interface - I think this is a tie. They are both very good, just different. I DO think that GameChanger is a little bit more intuitive (iScore doesn't know that a foul bunt on 3rd strike is an out, GameChanger does)

Fan interface - iScore has the best game WATCHING experience BY FAR.

Fan experience - I think it's a tie. iScore is better to watch but GameChanger has more useable fan options.

In summary - With both apps as-is, I like iScore better if only for the better in-game fan graphics. If GameChanger comes up with fan graphics that are close, I will like it better. As far as scorekeeper functionality and interface; they are both different but equally effective.
 
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We may have to try iscore just for the fact that you can have sub categories to sort stats. I don't know why Gamechanger hasn't allowed that.

Thanks Ken! Thats the one i was trying to find. There is also iswing and swingreader...i have no knowledge of them though.
 
Feb 3, 2011
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I've been using iScore for a couple of years and like it. Corrections can be made in the middle of a game by going to pitch by pitch and correcting the play/substitution/etc.. Fans LOVE the graphics when watching a game from home (we are a travel team that is out of town a lot). I can track different tournament stats by setting up leagues, as many as necessary. There is a 1 time $10 purchase cost for the app and $20 per year can get a team website. I have tried the website and is very useful for coaches to access very detailed stats but IMO not worth the money; I can email stats to the coaches if they want them. There are no other charges that I am aware of

I am trying GameChanger right now and through the HS season. I am told that corrections can be made just like iScore. I don't like the fans graphics when watching a game online, but the developers have promised that they will be releasing a much better fan experience before the next season. I can NOT track tournament stats seperately, only League/Non League/Exhibition/Post Season. The app is free and gives 3 people (Scorekeeper/2 coaches?) access to the full team website. Fans can watch play by play online for no charge but not pitch by pitch. For an additional $10 PER FAN, PER SEASON (this seems too high), fans have access to some very cool options, including watching pitch by pitch online! Best of all IMO is the ability for a paying fan to be texted or emailed when a specific player makes a play (name mentioned in game, offensively or defensively), This is very cool for parents that can't be at a game and can't watch the entire game due to work, etc...

So...

Both apps have advantages and disadvantages.

Overall Cost - GameChanger wins for the basic user - iScore wins for a travel team with parents that watch from home.

User Interface - I think this is a tie. They are both very good, just different. I DO think that GameChanger is a little bit more intuitive (iScore doesn't know that a foul bunt on 3rd strike is an out, GameChanger does)

Fan interface - iScore has the best game WATCHING experience BY FAR.

Fan experience - I think it's a tie. iScore is better to watch but GameChanger has more useable fan options.

In summary - With both apps as-is, I like iScore better if only for the better in-game fan graphics. If GameChanger comes up with fan graphics that are close, I will like it better. As far as scorekeeper functionality and interface; they are both different but equally effective.

Thanks for the breakdown. This is the first time I've heard from someone who's used both extensively.

The payment/access model for Gamechanger doesn't seem quite as straightforward as iScore, though, if I'm reading you correctly. Gamechanger is set up such that you can have 3 admins with access to everything, and then anyone who registers as a free fan only gets access to a limited number of stats. The premium level is $10 per season per person, although it can be gifted for $150 to the entire team. I'll be with 3 different teams next year, so that would end up being $300 for me to give it to all of them.

If iScore is only $20 for a whole YEAR, and if that gives the whole team access to all the stats, then that would be a much better value.
 

Coach-n-Dad

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The fact of the matter is that there are very few parents/fans who ever use the premier services. DD is on a Gold team that travels a LOT and only 3 families actually used the website to access games from home and only 2 other families ever used the stats provided, they asked the coach for stats and the coach sent them stats for only their kid.
 
Dec 3, 2008
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If you've got some money to burn, I recommend the iScore app in conjunction with Edge. (Edge) Very thorough analysis tool. Unsure how much the yearly subscription is. I believe we received it for $200 which included the $10 app and an iPod touch.
 
Jan 15, 2012
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Both are good, I prefer iScore

I've been using iScore for a couple of years and like it. Corrections can be made in the middle of a game by going to pitch by pitch and correcting the play/substitution/etc.. Fans LOVE the graphics when watching a game from home (we are a travel team that is out of town a lot). I can track different tournament stats by setting up leagues, as many as necessary. There is a 1 time $10 purchase cost for the app and $20 per year can get a team website. I have tried the website and is very useful for coaches to access very detailed stats but IMO not worth the money; I can email stats to the coaches if they want them. There are no other charges that I am aware of

I am trying GameChanger right now and through the HS season. I am told that corrections can be made just like iScore. I don't like the fans graphics when watching a game online, but the developers have promised that they will be releasing a much better fan experience before the next season. I can NOT track tournament stats seperately, only League/Non League/Exhibition/Post Season. The app is free and gives 3 people (Scorekeeper/2 coaches?) access to the full team website. Fans can watch play by play online for no charge but not pitch by pitch. For an additional $10 PER FAN, PER SEASON (this seems too high), fans have access to some very cool options, including watching pitch by pitch online! Best of all IMO is the ability for a paying fan to be texted or emailed when a specific player makes a play (name mentioned in game, offensively or defensively), This is very cool for parents that can't be at a game and can't watch the entire game due to work, etc...

So...

Both apps have advantages and disadvantages.

Overall Cost - GameChanger wins for the basic user - iScore wins for a travel team with parents that watch from home.

User Interface - I think this is a tie. They are both very good, just different. I DO think that GameChanger is a little bit more intuitive (iScore doesn't know that a foul bunt on 3rd strike is an out, GameChanger does)

Fan interface - iScore has the best game WATCHING experience BY FAR.

Fan experience - I think it's a tie. iScore is better to watch but GameChanger has more useable fan options.

In summary - With both apps as-is, I like iScore better if only for the better in-game fan graphics. If GameChanger comes up with fan graphics that are close, I will like it better. As far as scorekeeper functionality and interface; they are both different but equally effective.

I am a baseball mom - one son is now a college player and one is a high school senior. I have studied stats and scorekeeping extensively and have been team scorekeeper for individual teams, and our high school team. I have used several electronic scorekeepers over the years. When I found iScore 3 years ago, I thought I was in heaven - $9.99 for a tool that was better, easier and did more than the $150 palm type scorekeepers that were ugly and cumbersome. I used GameChanger some last fall to see which I liked better. Now, I am being "forced" to make the full time switch to GameChanger this season for our high school team. I found this board by searching google for "gamechanger vs. iscore" to see what others were saying / finding.

I agree with Coach-n-Dad, with the following additional information:

League / Game Type:[/B] iScore is way ahead of GameChanger here. iScore allows you to set up an infinite (or very large number) of user-named "Leagues". You can use these Leagues to categorize your games and to filter stats. I use Leagues extensively in iScore (for example, for the high school season, I set up Pre Season, Scrimmage, Tournament, District, Non District, Post Season, and Last 5). You can modify the League assignment for a game anytime and on the fly from the app and immediately view the stats real time for one or a combination of Leagues. I do this for the "last 5" league - each game, I go un-check the Last 5 league for the game that would be the 6th game ago, and add the new game. This is a valuable trending stat tool. GameChanger calls them Game Types but has their game types preset and named, and there are only 4 - Exhibition, Post Season, League and Non-League. Huge DISLIKE for me - the biggest one in fact.

Max Preps:[/B] Game Changer is up on this one. High school teams often input stats and game details into Max Preps. You can now automaticaly interface your Game Changer with Max Preps to avoid additional data input.

Play by Play for fans:[/B] iScore is free. Game Changer now makes users pay $10 per season per team - OR the admin/team can pay $150 per team per season to make this free for its fans.

Website interface: Game Changer has the nice real-time scoreboard update that you can embed in your website with HTML they provide. I am surprised that iScore doesn't yet have this but expect they will soon.

Stats download / reports: Both have good reports, but iScore has more options - I like the excel option wher eyou can then combine each player individual stats into one spreadsheet with separate tabs, etc.

For youth, select, and individual teams, I would select iScore above GameChanger. Unfortunately, in our area, GameChanger is becoming the norm and standard for the high school teams. It offers MaxPreps interface which is valuable for the high school level, and is being used by organizations like Perfect Game which often set standards for baseball. Good luck.
 

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