- May 17, 2012
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Don't miss two balls in the outfield next time.
Shameful!
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Don't miss two balls in the outfield next time.
If you don't like it, have your girls score more runs earlier in the game. Unless you don't have faith in them to win the game early.
Just our of curiosity to some of the posters that say they never played a time game that mattered, when do the games matter?
Is it just college or High School? Nationals? To the kids that play the games they all matter at the time.
On the whole stalling issue unless it's drop dead time, you can never say that the clock cost you a game because you were losing at the
time the game ended. It may have cost you a chance to win the game but that's another issue.
I am not a fan of a pitchers conference with 2 minutes left, or having a batter step out and take 5 practice swings. I have less of a problem
with true in game tactics like taking a couple of pitches as it's up to the D to get the hitter out but it's a grey area.
I do with that the umpires would be given some more push to keep the end of games legit. We had an ump stop our game this weekend to tell
a kid warming up a pitcher for the next game she needed to put a mask on. Some with throw a fit if a kids chin strap is off or god forbid someone
has earrings on, but they can't or won't do anything about some blatant crap teams try and pull.
Is it just college or High School? Nationals? To the kids that play the games they all matter at the time.
On the whole stalling issue unless it's drop dead time, you can never say that the clock cost you a game because you were losing at the
time the game ended. It may have cost you a chance to win the game but that's another issue.
I am not a fan of a pitchers conference with 2 minutes left, or having a batter step out and take 5 practice swings. I have less of a problem
with true in game tactics like taking a couple of pitches as it's up to the D to get the hitter out but it's a grey area.
I do with that the umpires would be given some more push to keep the end of games legit. We had an ump stop our game this weekend to tell
a kid warming up a pitcher for the next game she needed to put a mask on. Some with throw a fit if a kids chin strap is off or god forbid someone
has earrings on, but they can't or won't do anything about some blatant crap teams try and pull.
I didn't need valuation of the douchyness of softball people...... but thanks.
- Feb 7, 2013
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While it would be great if all games were 7 innings, very few are and if a clock is introduced, coaches need to consider that as part of their game strategy. If you are behind, you should speed up the game (e.g. no warm-ups between innings, etc.) and if you are ahead you can slow the game down. I wouldn't go to the length of having girls tie their shoes or change catchers mid-inning but I would certaintly be thinking about the score and the clock several innings before the end of the game.
To canyonjoe's point, while 10U may not matter in the grand scheme of things, at that moment it means everything to these girls and coaches who have put in years of practice. One of the best photos I have of my daughter as a player and me as head coach is at the trophy ceremony at an all-star tournament where my arm is around her and she has the 1st place trophy hoisted high above her head with the biggest smile on her face I have ever seen from her. We used clock management in a pool game to get the #1 seed going into bracket play and ended up winning the championship. To say these games are meaningless is a mistake. I wouldn't have done anything different.
To canyonjoe's point, while 10U may not matter in the grand scheme of things, at that moment it means everything to these girls and coaches who have put in years of practice. One of the best photos I have of my daughter as a player and me as head coach is at the trophy ceremony at an all-star tournament where my arm is around her and she has the 1st place trophy hoisted high above her head with the biggest smile on her face I have ever seen from her. We used clock management in a pool game to get the #1 seed going into bracket play and ended up winning the championship. To say these games are meaningless is a mistake. I wouldn't have done anything different.
Just because something could have been prevented doesn't justify it. So I assume you're just trying to take people's god-given right to complain. What would softball be without that?
- Feb 3, 2011
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It was just 10u, but I still remember the time DD's coach elected to play it completely straight and they ended up losing the elimination game of the regional all-star championship. At that time, this was the "biggest" game the girls had ever played in. Sure, it would have been great to see the girls advance to the final, but I had so much respect for his decision to demonstrate how much confidence he had in them.
I know most parents want to get as many meaningful games as they can in TB, but when a coach respects their players and what they're doing and shows confidence in them, there's really no price you can put on that, IMO.
That's a problem.
Congratulations to your team for their win. I hope they gained some valuable knowledge from the whole experience.
To the OP - the other coach disrespected the game. I don't know the rules well enough to know if the umpire should have intervened, but I can tell you with absolute certainty that if my dd's coach pulled something like that she would never return to him/her the following season. I get that stall tactics are "part of the game," but when those tactics are this classless and egregious, the coach deserves scorn and ridicule.
One of the most gratifying wins of my dd's softball career came against a team that had beaten us three times in a season, with two of those wins tainted (in my opinion) because of over the top stall tactics. As luck would have it, we end up playing that team in an elimination game at 14U ASA/USA A nationals (where there was no time limit), and we ended their season. Sweet justice. So that's my advice - don't get mad, get even.
One of the most gratifying wins of my dd's softball career came against a team that had beaten us three times in a season, with two of those wins tainted (in my opinion) because of over the top stall tactics. As luck would have it, we end up playing that team in an elimination game at 14U ASA/USA A nationals (where there was no time limit), and we ended their season. Sweet justice. So that's my advice - don't get mad, get even.
- Oct 4, 2014
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i had the greatest week of my daughters softball career on sunday last. my dd plays 14u though she is 12 in softball years and we played up to 16u. her team beat the team expected to win the tourney and then...heres the proud parent moment....they forfeited their next game bc they had a special needs game to play. our org has a special needs game every year and it happened to conflict with our schedule. maybe the coach thought we would not do as well as we did nevertheless not 1 child nor parent complained bc they understood the importance of this game to people whos children cannot hit, run, steal or pitch above the level of what we would think a 3 year old child could do. it was magnificent, watching our athletes push the wheel chairs to first, helping the other team steal bases, hit the ball, enjoy the game. i am in complete awe to see our girls give back. it was incredibly humbling. it really put things in to perspective for the girls and the parents as well. i honestly believe we got more out of this game than had we stayed at the tourney and competed for a plastic trophy. if anyone who reads this has the opportunity to participate in one of these fantastic events...please for your own good do so.
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The clock sucks Always does. It was alters my worst enemy
