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Jun 24, 2013
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Jacksonville
This weekend at a tournament in Brandon Mississippi my daughter’s coaches showed me how coaching should be done. Let me set the stage so it will all make sense.

We are a 10u Team from Monroe La, we started last year in 8u and struggled quite a bit. Lost a few kids to trophy hunters and teams that had been together a year already but for the most part we have core seven girls and hope the new ones we recruited the fall stick around.

When I watch these trophy hunting teams, I see these grown men yell at these girls when they make slight mistakes, not our head coach yeah he occasional gets mad at his own but for the most part he is extremely even tempered. He always moves the girls around so that girls get in field time and outfield time; he never leaves a girl in one spot very long without giving her a chance to play somewhere else a bit.

Yes he has primary spots during brackets for the most part but during practice he works the girls everywhere and sometimes it’s frustrating as a parent when you see a girl who normally wouldn’t be at 2nd miss a grounder but he reminds everyone this is about developing people daughters not winning every game.
This year we started 10u, we are the young girls this year and we didn’t carry an older pitchers or catchers we are developing our own from scratch, every tournament he has all the girls warm up and rotates whatever girls seem to be on two innings at a time.

My daughter happened to be one of the 3 that where warm so he let her pitch the first pool game, and for the most part she did real well walked 2 and SO 6 girls, one inning it was 3 up then 3 down. So as customary he swapped in other pitchers some struggled others did good and so on.
Well up came the 3rd bracket game and it was my daughters turn and she started as expected. She did great the first inning walked one girl SO the next 3. Next inning is where it went downhill. The first girl came up and my daughter struck her out, crowds going wild. Then it hit, the ump called time. Walked up to the Mound and signaled to the coach. My daughter was not presenting the ball when on the mound.

She was walking to the mound with the ball already in her glove, so he told her to show the ball. Well as you can expect asking a 9 year old who has been pitching for three months to change her pitching routine it didn’t go well. She wound up allowing 5 runs before she worked herself out of the inning. He never pulled her or flinched and let her work her way out of it even though it ended us in the tournament.

My daughter was devastated, she was in tears as she ran into the dugout, and other players and friends tried to consul her. After we weren’t batting anymore he had my daughter sit the bench that inning and he sat with her. I overheard him tell her something like this,
“You’re going to keep pitching for me for quite a few years, I believe in you, games like this are going to happen things are going to be going great and something pulls the rug out from under you and you have to fight and not give up. I am very proud of you for never giving up and staying in there and pitching when it was so hard”.
He said a few other words to her about fixing the issue, but for the most part didn’t harp; we wound up losing the game 10-2 as our other pitchers struggled as well. I was very mad at that ump for doing that, after all it’s not like a 10 year old girl is using pine tar on a ball but I understand why after I calmed down and thought about it. If the ump waited until after the game and said you need to get that fixed we would of most likely scoffed it up as to do and no other ump would call it until she was older and much harder to fix.

Anyway, the reason I posted this was I read so much about how this coach did this, or this coach did that, I really wanted to post where a coach could of drove a player from softball and instead I wake up to a 9 year old girl in a hotel throwing rubber balls at the wall trying to incorporate the presentation in her motion.
 
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Jul 10, 2014
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C-bus Ohio
Love what the coach did, but the necessity of it might have been avoided had he known the rules: there is no "presenting the ball" rule in ASA. Of course, this assumes it was an ASA rule set in effect:

ASA Rule 6, Sec 1.A. - When taking the pitching position in contact with the pitcher's plate, the pitcher must have their hands separated and must have the ball in either the glove or the pitching hand.

Either or - just can't have them together.
 
Jun 24, 2013
31
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Jacksonville
will keep that in mind, she likes to put her hands together and step on the mound. she just has to learn and wait to put them together on the mound. Its mostly my fault for not forcing the issue with her prior to the game.
 
Jun 7, 2013
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This weekend at a tournament in Brandon Mississippi my daughter’s coaches showed me how coaching should be done. Let me set the stage so it will all make sense.

We are a 10u Team from Monroe La, we started last year in 8u and struggled quite a bit. Lost a few kids to trophy hunters and teams that had been together a year already but for the most part we have core seven girls and hope the new ones we recruited the fall stick around.

When I watch these trophy hunting teams, I see these grown men yell at these girls when they make slight mistakes, not our head coach yeah he occasional gets mad at his own but for the most part he is extremely even tempered. He always moves the girls around so that girls get in field time and outfield time; he never leaves a girl in one spot very long without giving her a chance to play somewhere else a bit.

Yes he has primary spots during brackets for the most part but during practice he works the girls everywhere and sometimes it’s frustrating as a parent when you see a girl who normally wouldn’t be at 2nd miss a grounder but he reminds everyone this is about developing people daughters not winning every game.
This year we started 10u, we are the young girls this year and we didn’t carry an older pitchers or catchers we are developing our own from scratch, every tournament he has all the girls warm up and rotates whatever girls seem to be on two innings at a time.

My daughter happened to be one of the 3 that where warm so he let her pitch the first pool game, and for the most part she did real well walked 2 and SO 6 girls, one inning it was 3 up then 3 down. So as customary he swapped in other pitchers some struggled others did good and so on.
Well up came the 3rd bracket game and it was my daughters turn and she started as expected. She did great the first inning walked one girl SO the next 3. Next inning is where it went downhill. The first girl came up and my daughter struck her out, crowds going wild. Then it hit, the ump called time. Walked up to the Monday and signaled to the coach. My daughter was not presenting the ball when on the mound.

She was walking to the mound with the ball already in her glove, so he told her to show the ball. Well as you can expect asking a 9 year old who has been pitching for three months to change her pitching routine it didn’t go well. She wound up allowing 5 runs before she worked herself out of the inning. He never pulled her or flinched and let her work her way out of it even though it ended us in the tournament.

My daughter was devastated, she was in tears as she ran into the dugout, and other players and friends tried to consul her. After we weren’t batting anymore he had my daughter sit the bench that inning and he sat with her. I overheard him tell her something like this,
“You’re going to keep pitching for me for quite a few years, I believe in you, games like this are going to happen things are going to be going great and something pulls the rug out from under you and you have to fight and not give up. I am very proud of you for never giving up and staying in there and pitching when it was so hard”.
He said a few other words to her about fixing the issue, but for the most part didn’t harp; we wound up losing the game 10-2 as our other pitchers struggled as well. I was very mad at that ump for doing that, after all it’s not like a 10 year old girl is using pine tar on a ball but I understand why after I calmed down and thought about it. If the ump waited until after the game and said you need to get that fixed we would of most likely scoffed it up as to do and no other ump would call it until she was older and much harder to fix.

Anyway, the reason I posted this was I read so much about how this coach did this, or this coach did that, I really wanted to post where a coach could of drove a player from softball and instead I wake up to a 9 year old girl in a hotel throwing rubber balls at the wall trying to incorporate the presentation in her motion.

You've got to be careful with this kind of stuff. Us coaches are not used to dealing with nice, positive feedback. We just aren't conditioned that way! It always seems to cause our "allergies" stir up.
 
Jan 25, 2011
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Sounds like a great coach, but it is not a rule that you have to show the ball. She just can't have them together as she steps on the pitchers plate. She needs to wait and look in like she is getting her sign from the catcher. Then she can bring her hands together and start her motion. Never and I mean never does she have to present the ball. She can and should keep it in her glove and never let the batter see it until she starts her motion.
 
Just a few things:

If you wanted to make a positive post, why any mention of "trophy hunters?" The "trophy hunters" mentioned don't seem to have anything to do with the game your referencing. As a result, your "positive" post started out pretty negative for me.

Are the teams really "trophy hunters?" Are they class A teams that have dropped down to class C in order to win a trophy (which I would agree are "trophy hunters")? Are they teams at the same level that just take their softball seriously and take extra time to practice and they work their girls hard and have coaches who can recruit and retain good players (to me, these are "good teams" as opposed to "trophy hunters")?

I've played against top competition that has had loud, obnoxious, hard-core coaches who yell EVERYTHING at their players and I've played against teams that are equally good with relatively quiet, even-tempered, cerebral coaches who will only get into an argument with an umpire when they know they are right, and even then they'll keep their voice down.

I have seen families leave teams with truly great coaching because the coach yells too much and I've seen families leave teams with truly great coaching because the coach is too laid back and doesn't yell at the girls enough.

There is more than one way to do things with a softball team. Within reason, of course, it doesn't necessarily matter how a coach is able to make a team great. It's the greatness that matters and it is a rare thing, indeed.
 
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Feb 7, 2013
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LAS - I understand your point about different coaches have different styles and both can work well for a team, however I think Alex's original post is genuine and positive and his last sentence sums it up:

"Anyway, the reason I posted this was I read so much about how this coach did this, or this coach did that, I really wanted to post where a coach could of drove a player from softball and instead I wake up to a 9 year old girl in a hotel throwing rubber balls at the wall trying to incorporate the presentation in her motion."
 
Jun 24, 2013
31
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Jacksonville
I simply posted that to help define the coach, and the type of atmosphere he brings to our teams compared to others.

I could go in to details talking why several teams I would call trophy hunters are in messages if you would like but I truly did not post anything about that to trash other teams or go into what I consider the definition of trophy hunters are.

Truly great coaches in my opinion no when and where to raise their voice because some players respond to that, other need the compliment sandwich as leader you got to learn to judge your players.

But i really meant this to be positive so please forgive my mentioned of trophy hunters, since you are correct that is completely up to ones interpretations.
 

JohnnyO

Began this habit in 1980
May 13, 2015
270
18
Midwest
on the positive experiences note: we had a game this summer in a National tournament where after a few close innings we were winning by 7 or 8 runs, every bounce was going our way, the basic grounders were bringing errors, dropped pop ups, the other team had self destructed. We found our selves in an uncomfortable position. We couldn't get ourselves out of the offensive side of the inning. I'm not sure I'd ever thought that would happen. This is a good team or they wouldn't be here, what if they turn it around, we couldn't decide what to do. We told our girls no jumping to big leads on the bases, no stealing, no bunting. We actually were feeling bad. I was in the dugout and chatting with the HC at third base. How do we stop the blood bath. Do we obviously lead off early, take an out. The other coach was getting mad at his team and at us and our HC just stayed quiet. Not getting into that shouting match which we wanted out of also. After a few more runs it finally ended. As our team goes back onto the field to play defense the umpire comes over with his scorecard and "pretending" to point at something on it he tells us thank you for how we handled that last inning. He had heard us talking of leading off early and was ready to "help" the situation. It's not about how much you win by and more about honor and dignity in the win.
 

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