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Jun 11, 2013
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Another one this weekend.

I'm coaching 1st base.

Bases loaded, batter up with a 2-2 pitch It's a ball umpire says ball four take your base.

Batter runs heads to first our runners all start moving. I'm yelling at our runners to go back. Umpire realized mistake and yells time
out as runners are moving. Our runner made is safe home but he made batter come back and count be 3-2 and runners go back. Our HC and
DLP (Designated Loud Parent) are screaming at me to protest to let our run count. I on the other hand was fine with the call as I would have
gone nuts if they tagged our runners out.

I'm pretty sure that I have read that if an umpire's mistake puts either team in jeopardy they can rectify the situation which he did.

Was the umpire correct in doing that?
 
Oct 22, 2009
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Had you not said anything, and the run scored, the run counts since it was a live ball. In the end, it is up to every player on the field to know the count and how many outs there are. That said, I've had that situation go both ways for me.
 
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Had you not said anything, and the run scored, the run counts since it was a live ball. In the end, it is up to every player on the field to know the count and how many outs there are. That said, I've had that situation go both ways for me.
The umpire would have noticed even if I hadn't said anything. Even so I would yell again at my players to go back as they would have easily been out if the ump didn't call time out. If it were a situation where our batter thought it was ball 4 and our runners followed her lead it would be a different story but the ump pointed and said take your base so she went. I think it was the only call he got right all game.
 
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Had you not said anything, and the run scored, the run counts since it was a live ball. In the end, it is up to every player on the field to know the count and how many outs there are. That said, I've had that situation go both ways for me.

Since the error was the fault of the umpire they are required to fix the situation. Regardless of if the run scored or not, the runners would be put back and the run taken off the board if they had in fact crossed the plate. It was the umpire that put both teams in jeapardy and it can be corrected. Now, if the runners had all just advanced on their own, then it is a live ball and all action would stand.
 
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Comp, as always I'm never sure until you weigh in. I seriously value your input on rules issues. I really thought
the Umpire handled it perfectly. He made a mistake, fixed it fairly and we moved on(except our DLP who was still
talking about it an inning later).
 
Oct 22, 2009
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Since the error was the fault of the umpire they are required to fix the situation. Regardless of if the run scored or not, the runners would be put back and the run taken off the board if they had in fact crossed the plate. It was the umpire that put both teams in jeapardy and it can be corrected. Now, if the runners had all just advanced on their own, then it is a live ball and all action would stand.

Oops, read over that part. Thanks!
 

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